Eddie Kennison Unhappy

[cswil]

Broncos | Team to send letter to notify Lelie of fines
Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:28:37 -0700

Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports the Denver Broncos will send a letter to holdout WR Ashley Lelie to formally notify him of the fine for missing camp. The letter is required by the league and can be sent as soon as he misses a mandatory day. That total would be more than $600,000 - roughly Lelie's scheduled salary for the season in his original contract - if he stays away until the start of the regular season. The Broncos also are expected to try to recover some of Lelie's original signing bonus if he stays away after the season begins.


Get a load of this. $600,000 for holding out all of training camp. That's way too much money. I cannot believe the NFLPA agreed to that increase in the fine for holding out. I would think the NFLPA would realize that sometimes players have legitimate reasons to holdout but making it so expensive almost makes it impossible for a player to do so.

It appears that you are breaking your own rules. This thread is clearly about Eddie Kennison and you posted about Lelie.
Can you get fined for that?

[kmartin575]

It appears that you are breaking your own rules. This thread is clearly about Eddie Kennison and you posted about Lelie.
Can you get fined for that?

Read my last post man. I am not complaining about this thread being here.

I saw somebody make a post about the holdout fines so I thought that would be a relevant post.

[Giveemlove]

Broncos | Team to send letter to notify Lelie of fines
Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:28:37 -0700

Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports the Denver Broncos will send a letter to holdout WR Ashley Lelie to formally notify him of the fine for missing camp. The letter is required by the league and can be sent as soon as he misses a mandatory day. That total would be more than $600,000 - roughly Lelie's scheduled salary for the season in his original contract - if he stays away until the start of the regular season. The Broncos also are expected to try to recover some of Lelie's original signing bonus if he stays away after the season begins.


Get a load of this. $600,000 for holding out all of training camp. That's way too much money. I cannot believe the NFLPA agreed to that increase in the fine for holding out. I would think the NFLPA would realize that sometimes players have legitimate reasons to holdout but making it so expensive almost makes it impossible for a player to do so.

Lelie deserves to lose that money. He's tested the waters, the Broncos have granted him the chance to seek a trade. No one wants him for what the Broncos are willing to trade him for. He signed a contract, it's up to him to fulfil it, since he doesn't want that, there's no reason we should be paying him. Should these receivers just have free reign to kick and scream on the sidelines because they want more money or they want a #1 position handed to him. Maybe if the league hits these guys where it hurts them the most, the pocketbook, they'll think twice before pulling this crap.

[Medford Bronco]

Broncos | Team to send letter to notify Lelie of fines
Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:28:37 -0700

Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports the Denver Broncos will send a letter to holdout WR Ashley Lelie to formally notify him of the fine for missing camp. The letter is required by the league and can be sent as soon as he misses a mandatory day. That total would be more than $600,000 - roughly Lelie's scheduled salary for the season in his original contract - if he stays away until the start of the regular season. The Broncos also are expected to try to recover some of Lelie's original signing bonus if he stays away after the season begins.


Get a load of this. $600,000 for holding out all of training camp. That's way too much money. I cannot believe the NFLPA agreed to that increase in the fine for holding out. I would think the NFLPA would realize that sometimes players have legitimate reasons to holdout but making it so expensive almost makes it impossible for a player to do so.

This is an excellent post KM. I give you credit for the informative info. I will give you a CP when they replenish

[Archimedes Owl]

Read my last post man. I am not complaining about this thread being here.

I saw somebody make a post about the holdout fines so I thought that would be a relevant post.

I think this was meant to be an informative thread about Eddy Kennison's unhappiness with his situation, so I think that was a bit off topic.

There are tons of Lelie threads all over the other forums to post in.

Anyway, I think that sometimes players that want to make a decision to try to improve their situation are ridiculed a bit unfairly. They aren't given guaranteed contracts, so the collective bargaining agreement allows for players to hold out, but with consequences. It's just that when it hurts your team, people don't like it.

Still, it was written into the agreement to allow the players some recourse. They can hold out and as long as they are back by a certain point, they will accrue a season.

And I think that Eddy's complaint is legit. I mean, he's recieving average pay for a second reciever. As a first reciever in a productive offense, it makes sense that he'd ask for more money. I can't say that I wouldn't want to restructure if I was in his situation.

[kmartin575]

I think this was meant to be an informative thread about Eddy Kennison's unhappiness with his situation, so I think that was a bit off topic.

There are tons of Lelie threads all over the other forums to post in.

Anyway, I think that sometimes players that want to make a decision to try to improve their situation are ridiculed a bit unfairly. They aren't given guaranteed contracts, so the collective bargaining agreement allows for players to hold out, but with consequences. It's just that when it hurts your team, people don't like it.

Still, it was written into the agreement to allow the players some recourse. They can hold out and as long as they are back by a certain point, they will accrue a season.

And I think that Eddy's complaint is legit. I mean, he's recieving average pay for a second reciever. As a first reciever in a productive offense, it makes sense that he'd ask for more money. I can't say that I wouldn't want to restructure if I was in his situation.

Agreed. Also, it's not like Kennison just surprised the Chiefs today and said he might hold out. I'm not sure if it says it in the article or not but apparently he has been asking for more money since Spring.

[KCLadyFan]

It is funny how a legitimate story about Eddie "needs to be in the smack forum".
The logistics of posting where and when are very confusing when dealing with Chiefs fans. Feelings seem to get hurt very often and there is an abundance of thin skin.

No one here has or can hurt my feelings....takes alot more than a msg board to get me upset or irritated....

[KCLadyFan]

I wish some of these players would try living on my salary....
they are all over paid....all of them....but as long as the owners are raking it in and the stadiums are full...the agents for these players are gonna try for the
bigger better deal...

[BroncoFanCam]

I wish some of these players would try living on my salary....
they are all over paid....all of them....but as long as the owners are raking it in and the stadiums are full...the agents for these players are gonna try for the
bigger better deal...

It's a disgrace...

I think that they should be paid hansomly, they will not be able to play the game forever, and provide us all with a great deal of enjoyment.

Many of them have little to fall back on after sports (the smart ones have the backup plan in place), and like I said, I think they deserve a good deal of money for the hard work they do put in...

BUT IT'S OUT OF CONTROL!!!!!!!!

[seeker]

they are entertainers, and we pay to watch...shame on us...but personally i say give them the money and let me watch. Eddie deserves a pay raise. no ifs ands or buts.... he constantly produces (especially against denver...hee hee)...give the man the money he deserves.

[Nick7]

Wow, now the Chargers need a WR to complain. It's only fate.

(Antonio Gates would work, too!)

[theshiverman]

Chiefs’ Kennison unhappy with contract and indicates he may leave camp if he can’t get raise or his release.
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Halfway through a six-year contract he signed in 2003, the Chiefs’ Eddie Kennison might have been able to live with the terms of the deal scheduled to pay him $2.1 million this season.

But offseason research by his agent, John Hamilton, showed Kennison to have the 45th-highest 2006 salary among the NFL’s 64 starting wide receivers. One of Kennison’s closest peers in terms of age and recent performance, Dallas’ Terry Glenn, recently received a lucrative contract extension.

Closer to home, the Chiefs just signed free-agent cornerback Ty Law to a five-year, $30 million deal.

Suddenly, Kennison’s contract isn’t as attractive, and this week he decided to do something about it.

Kennison said he would report to training camp with the Chiefs in time for the first practice Friday at the University of Wisconsin-River Falls. But he also indicated he might leave camp at some point if the Chiefs don’t either give him a new contract with a raise or release him.

“I will cross that bridge when I get to it,” Kennison said. “I will go to camp and work as hard as I’ve been working. I won’t have any bitter or sour attitudes in camp. …

“But when I signed my last contract with the Chiefs, I think we all know that if I hadn’t performed to expectations, I wouldn’t be here anymore. Well, I played beyond those expectations. Now it’s time for them to step up and compensate me for my performance compared to the guys in my peer group.

“I would hope the Chiefs would put me on waivers if they don’t want to step to the plate.”

The loss of Kennison would be a huge blow to the Chiefs. Kennison, who had more than 1,000 receiving yards in each of the last two seasons, is their only established wide receiver.

Samie Parker, the other starter, has shown promise — but between injuries and inconsistencies he hasn’t put together a full season. The other receivers are Dante Hall, whose value to the Chiefs has been as a kick-returner, and a collection of unproven younger players.

Chiefs president/general manager Carl Peterson did not respond to a request to answer questions on Kennison’s situation.

Kennison, who joined the Chiefs in 2001, is quietly becoming one of the franchise’s all-time receiving leaders. He ranks in the top 10 in virtually every major career receiving category. Only Kennison and Carlos Carson have put together back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons.

Kennison received about $6.6 million, including a signing bonus of $3.2 million, in the first three years of his current contract.

“The problem is that when Eddie signed that contract, the Chiefs had already paid Johnnie Morton to be their No. 1 receiver,” Hamilton said. “Eddie’s contract was not set up for him to be the No. 1 guy. It was set up for him to be the No. 2 guy. That deal is OK but not great with respect to a No. 2 receiver, but not a No. 1 receiver.”

Morton, a big-money free-agent addition in 2002, flopped and was released last year. Meanwhile, Kennison not only outplayed Morton, but his contract figures are being blown away in the current market.

For example, two players with inferior statistics to Kennison recently received exorbitant free-agent contracts. New England’s David Givens signed with Tennessee for $15.3 million over the next three seasons while Pittsburgh’s Antwaan Randle El signed with Washington for $11.2 million over the next two.

Kennison’s current contract calls for him to receive about $4.8 million over the next two seasons and $8.2 million over the next three. Kennison last season had more catches (68), yards (1,102) and touchdowns (five) than either Givens or Randle El.

“We can’t ignore what the marketplace has done,” Hamilton said.

The Chiefs might be hesitant to give big money to a 33-year-old wide receiver. If that’s their stance, it’s understandable. Kennison is at an age when players at his position tend to lose their skills rapidly.

“That is what they’ve told me is their concern,” Hamilton said. “But there are ways to give them some protection in case Eddie’s production falls way off.”

The Chiefs’ signing of the 32-year-old Law added to Kennison’s frustration

“I know Ty Law,” he said. “He’s a friend, and I’m excited he’s here. But, yeah, it’s a source of frustration. When you’ve been a part of an organization for some time, I think those guys in that organization need to be taken care of first.”

Kennison and Hamilton first contacted the Chiefs in the spring. Talks have been ongoing but fruitless.

Kennison initially thought about not reporting for camp. After discussions with his wife, Shimika, and Hamilton, Kennison decided against it.

His decision to report doesn’t necessarily mean he’s in it for the long haul.

“I have a responsibility to this organization and the 53 guys I dress with, so it came up quickly that I was not going to miss camp,” Kennison said. “I’m not a selfish, flashy kind of guy. I just want the world to know what’s going on with my situation.

“I love being a Kansas City Chief. I want to be here for the rest of my career. The Chiefs have not said they won’t take care of me. Carl has indicated to my agent they are willing to do something. We just need to get to a point where both parties are happy. Obviously, we’re not to that point yet, and I don’t think we’re even close.”

he must not be getting the baby treatment now that Tricky Di-cky Vermin is gone, to bad vermin isnt coaching somewhere else so Eddie could quit on KC and follow his buddy Vermin around the NFL like a lap dog.

[pipes]

I think that comparing contracts of these three are very tricky because they are all three in different boats.

Randle El got his big contract due to a number of reasons such as:

1. being a good #2 wr on a SB winning ball club
2. performing very well in that SB
3. can save a roster spot as back-up qb
4. one of the better return men in the league

Givens is in a whole other boat

He came from a great system, has good measureables, is a hard worker, and has LOADS of potential, not to mention youth is on his side. IMO he prolly shouldn't have gotten this big of a contract, but the Titans took a shot and will see what they get.


Kennison is under contract already and has prolly earned himself a raise. However, he is on the wrong side of six foot tall, is on the wrong side of 30, and is on the wrong side of being a non ******-bag. (you don't get bounced around from 4 teams in 3 years by being a positive, productive influence on a franchise-er franchises.)

However, pay is usually supposed to be based on production-so I agree with him, and he should prolly get a raise. And quite frankly he has been less of a d-bag since joining KC.

[VADER72]

Broncos | Team to send letter to notify Lelie of fines
Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:28:37 -0700

Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports the Denver Broncos will send a letter to holdout WR Ashley Lelie to formally notify him of the fine for missing camp. The letter is required by the league and can be sent as soon as he misses a mandatory day. That total would be more than $600,000 - roughly Lelie's scheduled salary for the season in his original contract - if he stays away until the start of the regular season. The Broncos also are expected to try to recover some of Lelie's original signing bonus if he stays away after the season begins.


Get a load of this. $600,000 for holding out all of training camp. That's way too much money. I cannot believe the NFLPA agreed to that increase in the fine for holding out. I would think the NFLPA would realize that sometimes players have legitimate reasons to holdout but making it so expensive almost makes it impossible for a player to do so.

With the money these clowns make, glad it's 14k a day. Ashley's excuses for not being here are stupid, especially this being his last year on his contract. All he's doing right at the moment is ruining his career. He isn't going to be a #1 any where unless the team just completely blows. Maybe we can do what ricky did and go to the Canadian league.