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  • LDB
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    Originally posted by honestpatsfan
    It works both ways- Branch and his agent had not even bothered negotiating with the Pats since their original offer. They rejected it, and Branch continues to hold out.

    The Pats made the only move to bring Branch back to the negotiating table - by allowing him to seek a trade, they determined what he'd be really willing to play for (which was less than he originally demanded of course). A player of Branch's value would come at a high price in a trade, if a team can't pony up the picks, then the Pats have no choice but to deny a trade.

    You're right it is a business, and BOTH sides are all business on this one. Where is Branch's dignity and respect here? Why isn't he a "turd"?
    Well, whichever way you want to look at it...the Pats actions have guaranteed that Branch will not show up until week 10. This won't force him back to the table...it will push him further away from it.

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  • honestpatsfan
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    Originally posted by The|Snake#16
    Once again the Patriots show how classless their organization is. You have to show your players some sort of respect, especially significant contributors and long-time stars. But they don't, they remain 100% business, whereas most people have dignity and respect, the Patriots are turds.
    It works both ways- Branch and his agent had not even bothered negotiating with the Pats since their original offer. They rejected it, and Branch continues to hold out.

    The Pats made the only move to bring Branch back to the negotiating table - by allowing him to seek a trade, they determined what he'd be really willing to play for (which was less than he originally demanded of course). A player of Branch's value would come at a high price in a trade, if a team can't pony up the picks, then the Pats have no choice but to deny a trade.

    You're right it is a business, and BOTH sides are all business on this one. Where is Branch's dignity and respect here? Why isn't he a "turd"?

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  • honestpatsfan
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    Originally posted by Lorcust
    atleast we get to tie the record the lombardi count this year.
    That's what I heard last year, and will hear next year, and the next year, and the next year...

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  • Lorcust
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    Originally posted by WABronco
    They can play matchups 1 through 4 with that WR depth chart. Of course, this may be DJack insurance as well...he's got a bum knee and he's just now practicing.
    Good point, Stevens is injured too so the Hawks might be trying to get an effective weapon to balance the attack pending the recovery of Jackson and Stevens.

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  • WABronco
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    Originally posted by Lorcust
    Let's see....

    Darrell Jackson, Deion Branch, Bobby Engram and Nate Burleson at WR. Mack Strong at FB, Hasselback at QB and MVP Shaun Alexander at RB. Son of a ***** that'd be awesome. Add Jeramy Stevens at TE for a nice mix of extra play making and you got yourselves an explosive offense.

    If he went there he'd be the sober Koren Robinson they wished they had. Well, now that Patriots get 2 first round picks (one of them being the one they currently had) and possibly a decent player. Sounds dangerous for any team to face the hawks.

    Almost forgot.... Leonard Weaver, enough said. Put him with the rest of those guys.
    They can play matchups 1 through 4 with that WR depth chart. Of course, this may be DJack insurance as well...he's got a bum knee and he's just now practicing.

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  • Lorcust
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    Originally posted by WABronco
    Sounds like this may be legit.
    Let's see....

    Darrell Jackson, Deion Branch, Bobby Engram and Nate Burleson at WR. Mack Strong at FB, Hasselback at QB and MVP Shaun Alexander at RB. Son of a ***** that'd be awesome. Add Jeramy Stevens at TE for a nice mix of extra play making and you got yourselves an explosive offense.

    If he went there he'd be the sober Koren Robinson they wished they had. Well, now that Patriots get 2 first round picks (one of them being the one they currently had) and possibly a decent player. Sounds dangerous for any team to face the hawks.

    Almost forgot.... Leonard Weaver, enough said. Put him with the rest of those guys.

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  • WABronco
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    Seahawks | Team still pushing for Branch
    Fri, 1 Sep 2006 19:37:56 -0700

    John Tomase, of the Boston Herald, reports even though the deadline to trade for him has passed, the Seattle Seahawks are still pursuing New England Patriots WR Deion Branch. A source in Seattle said the Seahawks believe they're very much in the mix and that the Patriots told them, "They're going to continue to pursue this thing." Sources say the Patriots have backed off requests for two first-round picks and would accept a first-round pick and a middle-round pick. Though the Seahawks didn't offer higher than a second-round pick, a source they said they would be willing to trade their first-round pick, which would likely be low in the draft anyway.
    Sounds like this may be legit.

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  • Lorcust
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    Originally posted by honestpatsfan
    I'll take cheap and 3 Lombardi's over cap-cheating and 2 Lombardi's anyday
    (Mutters under breath)
    "Curses, how'd he remember, well atleast he didn't remember when we greased our jerse-"

    Well...

    atleast we get to tie the record the lombardi count this year.

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  • The|Snake#16
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    Once again the Patriots show how classless their organization is. You have to show your players some sort of respect, especially significant contributors and long-time stars. But they don't, they remain 100% business, whereas most people have dignity and respect, the Patriots are turds.

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  • honestpatsfan
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    Originally posted by Giveemlove
    I guess the other motto is.....Coach and Owner so cheap that you end up back in the cellar you lived in for 30 years before
    I'll take cheap and 3 Lombardi's over cap-cheating and 2 Lombardi's anyday

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  • Giveemlove
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    Originally posted by honestpatsfan
    Very true- our motto is "better safe than Denver"

    I guess the other motto is.....Coach and Owner so cheap that you end up back in the cellar you lived in for 30 years before

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  • Nick
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    The New England Patriots on Friday rejected trade proposals for holdout wide receiver Deion Branch, leaving the sides at a stalemate as teams prepare for their season openers next week.



    In fact, the parties' stances might have grown more contentious Friday, with sources confirming that Branch and agent Jason Chayut have filed a grievance against the Patriots through the NFL Players Association. In the grievance, filed after the 4 p.m. Friday deadline passed without a trade, Branch is seeking an expeditious hearing in front of a "special master" arbitrator.


    The full grounds of the grievance were not immediately clear, but it is thought Branch will contend that New England officials promised his representatives they would trade him if the Patriots received a reasonable offer. Chayut is apparently prepared to argue, if a grievance hearing is convened, that trade offers made by the New York Jets and Seattle Seahawks were appropriate and of a fair market value, given recent deals involving other NFL wide receivers.

    ESPN.com's Michael Smith reported that the Jets offered a second-round draft choice for Branch.


    The team issued a two-sentence statement Friday that read, "No trade has been consummated. Deion Branch remains under contract to the New England Patriots." The team had no comment on the grievance.


    Branch had earlier reached agreements with the Seahawks and Jets on what ESPN.com has learned was a six-year, $39 million contract. The contract included a combined $13 million in guaranteed signing and option bonuses. Under the contract, Branch would have earned nearly $23 million in the first three years of the deal.


    Of course, the contract agreements with the Seahawks and Jets are essentially rendered moot now.


    Smith reported Monday that, according to several league sources, the Patriots were seeking two first-round draft choices for Branch. Other league sources told ESPN.com that New England might have considered dealing Branch for first- and middle-round choices. It is thought the teams involved did not offer New England more than a second-round draft pick and that the Patriots did not come close to making a deal.

    Who takes the next step toward a possible reconciliation, with the sides seemingly at an impasse, remains to be seen.


    People close to Branch insist he will not crack and will report to the Patriots for only the final six games of the season, enough to earn an accrued year toward the pension, and to qualify him for unrestricted free agency next spring.


    Although last week's move by the Patriots was surprising, it also reflected the state of discussions between the sides. There has been virtually no meaningful dialogue for weeks and Branch, the team's leading receiver in 2005, remains out of camp and is being fined $14,000 a day during his absence.


    It is thought that, at some point in the offseason, the Patriots offered two extension proposals: a three-year deal worth $18.75 million with $8 million of that guaranteed, and a five-year extension at $31 million, with $11 million in bonuses.


    Branch, 27, is scheduled to earn a base salary of $1.05 million in 2006, the final season of the five-year contract he signed as a second-round choice in the 2002 draft. And the base salary is only that high because Branch performed well enough to trigger an "escalator" in the contract that raised his compensation by $500,000.


    Team officials indicated as far back as March that securing an extension with Branch was a priority, but the sides have been unable to strike a deal and talks seem at a dead end.


    Branch is coming off a career year in which he had 78 receptions for 998 yards and five touchdowns. For his career, Branch has 213 catches for 2,744 yards and 14 touchdowns. He has appeared in 53 games and logged 42 starts. He earned most valuable player honors in Super Bowl XXXIX when he tied a title game record with 11 receptions, netting 133 yards.

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  • armedequation
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    Originally posted by WABronco
    I doubt they're too worried about the Jets at this time.

    Besides, it'd have to be a great offer for them to even consider it.
    well this isnt gonna happen because of the patriots front office. The Jets and Seahawks were willing to pay branch more money that the pats could. The after the patriots find this out they say "oh insteas of one first round pick we want two of them and thats the only way we're gonna deal him"

    congrats patriots you will now have your best WR sit out the rest of the season. I would do this too after seeing the games that the front office played.

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  • WABronco
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    Originally posted by Lorcust
    Why are they trading their best receiver within their division?
    I doubt they're too worried about the Jets at this time.

    Besides, it'd have to be a great offer for them to even consider it.

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  • Lorcust
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    Originally posted by WABronco
    That's off PFT.com, but I'm reading that Boston radio is reporting that a deal is either done or will be done because the Pats think NY's offer is too good to pass up.

    Hmmmm...a second and a player? I'd say that player is either Bryan Thomas, Laveranues Coles, Justin McCareins, David Barrett, or maybe even Dewayne Robertson.

    We shall see!
    Why are they trading their best receiver within their division?

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