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It's true. The Cards confidance just may be dead after what happened Monday.
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The Raiders have a chance to break a sacred record, and what do they do?
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its 17-0
if the raiders lose this game
they officially are the worst team in the nflComment
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Originally posted by BRONCOS_OWN_U16
well they are already officially the worst team in nfl. but right now they are actually looking like a real team against the cardinals. im really dissappointed that they are letting them make fools outa em. they need only 2 td's. with enough time on the clock, but at this rate raiders are gonna get there first W of the season.
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like i said the raiders have talentOriginally posted by DeBroncos47
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worst team in the nfl is the browns or dolphinsComment
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but yet we beat the raiders this year 24-21 and beat the doplhins last year 22-0Originally posted by BRONCOS_OWN_U16
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wowOriginally posted by DawgFanaticbut yet we beat the raiders this year 24-21 and beat the doplhins last year 22-0
now you start talking about last year
also raiders have more player talent then you guysComment
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Randy Moss is better than any Brown receiver, but the Braylon and Jurevicious are more talented than any Raider receiver thats playing.Originally posted by BRONCOS_OWN_U16
Frye > Walter.
Droughns is about as good as Lamont Jordan. Similar players with similar styles.
FB Terelle Smith is a better blocker, Crockett is a better playmaker.
TE Kellen Winslow owns Courtney Anderson.
O-line the Browns are so much better than the Raiders O-line it's not even funny. Neither are all that great though.
DEs Kamerion Wimbley is a beast and provides constant pressure. Around as good as Burgess, aka one year sack wonder. Ted Washington is better than Ternell Sands but not Warren Sapp, although Ted stops the run better.
LB (oh lord) The Browns own the Raiders here. Andra Davis > Kirk Morrison by a long shot. D'Qwell Jackson isn't that bad either (or whoever is the other ILB). Willie McGinnest is so much better than Sam Williams or the other OLB.
CB Gary Baxter and Leigh Bodden are so much better than Nnamdi Asomugha and the other guy, I forget. The depth is better with Tyrone Poole and Duane Starks as a dime back I think, but the starters are better on the browns.
S: Michael Huff is the only decent safety in raider land. The Brown have Brian Russel (a fine safety) and Sean Jones who is better than Derrick Gibson or Stuart Schweigert.
K and P, the Raiders are better.
Let's count:
Receivers: Even
QB: Browns
RB: EVen
FB: Even
TE: Browns
O-line: Browns
DE: Browns/Even Hard to call.
DT: Even (based on the diff between 3-4 and 4-3 defenses.
MLB/ILB: Browns
OLB: Browns
CB: Browns
S: Browns
K: Raiders
P: Raiders
6 Browns 2 Raiders 1 Browns/Even 4 Even
Yeah, the browns have better talent and coaching staff.
Atleast among head coaches.
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Please, tell me how Matt Leinart did great against the best defense in the league in the Bears, but sucked horribly against the not so good Raiders D?
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damn you post the same crap all over agianOriginally posted by Lorcust
you really need to stop comparing teams players by their madden raitings to deterime who is better
also you give the raiders no credit because their an afc west rival and give the browns to much un deserved credit
no one cares how close the browns lose games every year
the browns cant win and their losers
thats how its going to be for a whileComment
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I don't use madden ratings.Originally posted by BRONCOS_OWN_U16
I watch the games, and the Raiders do look and are far worse.
O-line, compare the sacks of the Raiders and the sacks of the Browns. Big difference.
I give the Raiders no credit because they are down there with being the worst team in football, with the cardinals.
The Browns are a team on the rise and have plenty of good stars on their team, a lot more than the Raiders do.
Look at the stats of the two teams and tell me who's doing better.
You hate the Browns and blindly start pouring out crap about the Raiders being better. The Raiders have done worse each season than the Browns, consistantly over the last 3. The Browns are a team on the rise, you honestly do not know what you are talking about, at all...
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Why don't you go get your mother to come help you again.Originally posted by BRONCOS_OWN_U16Comment
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it makes an offense much better when you are able to get up 14 points in teh first quarter. Plus.... thats why they play the games. Why would the Bears struggle so much against the Cardinals after dominating the other teams they played?Originally posted by aberdienPlease, tell me how Matt Leinart did great against the best defense in the league in the Bears, but sucked horribly against the not so good Raiders D?
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ok for a team thats been on the rise the past 4 years they still cant winOriginally posted by LorcustI don't use madden ratings.
I watch the games, and the Raiders do look and are far worse.
O-line, compare the sacks of the Raiders and the sacks of the Browns. Big difference.
I give the Raiders no credit because they are down there with being the worst team in football, with the cardinals.
The Browns are a team on the rise and have plenty of good stars on their team, a lot more than the Raiders do.
Look at the stats of the two teams and tell me who's doing better.
You hate the Browns and blindly start pouring out crap about the Raiders being better. The Raiders have done worse each season than the Browns, consistantly over the last 3. The Browns are a team on the rise, you honestly do not know what you are talking about, at all...
also if the browns 0-line is worse then how come we got more sacks on the browns and gave up less rushing yards to the browns
so how long will it take for the browns tor rise?
after were all dead?......................................
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