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  • Bengals' Thurman, Bucs' Cox file discrimination claims against NFL

    Interesting stuff...
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2978901

    Bengals' Thurman, Bucs' Cox file discrimination claims against NFL

    Two players currently suspended by the NFL, middle linebacker Odell Thurman of the Cincinnati Bengals and Tampa Bay Bucs cornerback Torrie Cox, have filed discrimination claims with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission in an attempt to have their respective league sanctions overturned.


    The lawsuits were filed with the EEOC under the Americans with Disabilities Act.


    Essentially, the players are contending that they have been viewed as alcoholics in the eyes of the NFL, and that perception is the basis for the punitive actions that were imposed by commissioner Roger Goodell. The players were suspended for repeat violations of the NFL substance abuse policy.


    The Americans with Disabilities Act prohibits employers from discriminating against workers with disabilities. Representatives for the players contend in the separate lawsuits that alcoholism is a disability.


    Both suits cite the case of former NBA player Roy Tarpley, the onetime Dallas Mavericks' forward who was suspended in 1995. The EEOC ruled that NBA violated the Americans with Disabilities Act when it did not reinstate Tarpley even though he apparently passed drug screenings for four straight years.


    Last month, Goodell denied Thurman's application for reinstatement to the league, but cited no reason for his decision. A starter for the Bengals in his 2005 rookie season, Thurman was suspended for the entire 2006 campaign and had hoped to return to the team this summer in training camp. Now he faces the prospect of a second straight idle season.


    Thurman's agent, John Michels, said that, even though his client acknowledged in court that he has a problem with alcohol, he has passed all the league-administered tests. Thurman is in the process of appealing Goodell's decision not to reinstate him.


    Cox was suspended last month for the first four games of this season. His suspension is also under appeal.
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  • #2
    Thurman admitted he is an alcoholic... and he skipped a meeting with his PO which violated the terms of his probation... THE DAY BEFORE GOODELL DECIDED ON HIS RESINSTATEMENT. He just needs to deal with the consequences of his actions instead of blaming other people.




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    • #3
      Originally posted by bengaaaaals1688 View Post
      Thurman admitted he is an alcoholic... and he skipped a meeting with his PO which violated the terms of his probation... THE DAY BEFORE GOODELL DECIDED ON HIS RESINSTATEMENT. He just needs to deal with the consequences of his actions instead of blaming other people.

      Yeah but here's no money in that.

      What Thurman must be thinking is that he should be able to ruin his life with alcohol just as long as it doesn't effect his football life.

      It's another example of an athlete thinking the world owes them something.

      But the NFL isn't a regular job, and Goodell isn't a regular boss. The NFL isn't "owed" to anyone and Goodell should be able to hold those accountable for their actions off the field.

      If these two win their case it could undermine Goodells authority to do so. And any court that would allow this to happen would not only be enabling Thurmans alcoholism, but opening the door for other idiots to give the NFL a black eye (In some cases repeatedly).

      Nobody is telling these two that they can't play football, they just can't play football for the NFL. And like you said Thurman just needs to deal with that.....Preferably after he deals with his real life problems.
      Last edited by stnzed; 08-18-2007, 01:22 PM.

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      • #4
        Call it whatchu wanna call it I'm a _ _ alchoholic, drink it if you really want it, ain't gotta put no extras on it.

        but seriously, these guys got a real problem, and somebody has to step in and help them out. I've known a few people who got like this, and they need someone to intervene in order for them to get better. I wish them the best of luck on that part of it at least.

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        • #5
          Just about every single employer out there has rules about drinking and drugs in their employment policy, the NFL being no exception.

          It doesn't matter that this is under a CBA. Any union shop has a CBA.

          If they were to actually win this (which they won't), every company that has a no alcohol/drug policy could be considered to be 'discriminating'.


          Which would be stupid.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by stnzed View Post
            Yeah but here's no money in that.

            What Thurman must be thinking is that he should be able to ruin his life with alcohol just as long as it doesn't effect his football life.

            It's another example of an athlete thinking the world owes them something.

            But the NFL isn't a regular job, and Goodell isn't a regular boss. The NFL isn't "owed" to anyone and Goodell should be able to hold those accountable for their actions off the field.

            If these two win their case it could undermine Goodells authority to do so. And any court that would allow this to happen would not only be enabling Thurmans alcoholism, but opening the door for other idiots to give the NFL a black eye (In some cases repeatedly).

            Nobody is telling these two that they can't play football, they just can't play football for the NFL. And like you said Thurman just needs to deal with that.....Preferably after he deals with his real life problems.
            Well I was referring more to the fact that he missed a meeting that is required as terms of his probation, which is the unofficial reason for him not being reinstated. It just isn't something that you are allowed to do, and considering what was on the line when he did it... he is just stupid. He knew that it could screw up his reinstatement, and he did it anyways... it was bad enough already that he is an admitted alcoholic, but to haul off and make it even more difficult for himself he skips a probationary meeting, and then has the gall to say that he is being treated unfairly... he doesn't deserve to play in the NFL.




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