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[Broncos-R-Great]

Sadly, Orton was better than this....

[Broncos-R-Great]

I don’t see any way they win this game, I hope I’m wrong.

It’s funny how both teams were bad last year, Dolphins got the right coach, got their QB, rebuilt, and are moving in the right direction, they’re making the jump we’d all thought/hoped the Broncos would make this year....

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I’m thinking about the same level of suckiness between all them. McDaniels drafted Decker and DT, but c’mon, trading a 1st for Alphonso Smith, Darcel Mcbath & Richard Quinn in the 2nd, that’s next level crapiness.

Shanny’s 2006 draft was pure gold, but outside that, garbage...

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Of course, draft has been poor leaving a talent void, everybody knows that. Elway likely needs to go at this point, too many losing seasons, too many bad decisions.

Poor drafting though isn’t anything new for this team, it’s been 20+ years for poor drafting. First Shanahan, then McDaniels,...

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No doubt he was a good owner, I just don’t think the ownership problem is a magic fix all. There’s bad owners in the NFL (Snyder, Bidwills), teams with no owners (Broncos, Packers), and teams with good owners. Is there a connection between the owner and winning? Maybe some I guess.... But there’s...

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I don’t know, is the ownership thing just a convenient excuse? Bowlen never did much, basically sat back, signed the checks, and let the football guys make the decisions (as any good owner should). On top of that, he had been out of the picture entirely from around 2010/2011 on.

I agree...

[Broncos-R-Great]

Yes that’s true. Trying to force continuity for the sake of continuity, when you have the wrong people in place, is simply pointless. Best to cut your losses and move on....

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Something to keep in mind, a new game will likely mean a full new coaching staff, and a new coach will mean a new QB.

A new GM will likely want his own HC choice, and not be tied to one with a losing record. As well, a new HC isn’t going to want a QB who’s played as poorly as Lock...

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Would be nice, but I just don’t see it happening. I hate being negative, but look at the remaining schedule, it’s about as brutal as possible. Yes, anything is possible, but with all the injuries, a defense that’s falling apart, and an offense that struggles to even get first downs, unless things...

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Difference is Shanahan was a much better offense mind than Fangio/Shurmur. I doubt we have the right coaches to develop a young offense. But, really can’t change coaches again or the team will be set further back, really screwed....

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Sounds like a blowout is coming

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Ugh, Fangio and timeouts....

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Eh, both teams have a ton of injuries, the Bosa excuse is a pretty lame one. Reminds me of the playoff win against the Patriots when BB blamed the loss on Welker when he knocked Talib out of the game....

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I posted in another thread (or maybe this one), the problem with the Browns was they continued to hire the wrong coaches and pick the wrong players. They never had any continuity because they never had the people in place worth keeping. If you pick the wrong people like the Broncos have been doing,...

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Well they did win last week, so I guess you can count that one, they were up 16-0 early, but let Jags come back and briefly take the lead, the Chargers still ended up winning. I don't know if it counts as a blown lead when you end up still winning.

The previous 2 weeks they were up by...

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The offense was putrid, no denying that. But, you’ve got to be able to least get some positive yards running if you hope to win a game, 4 rushing yards over 3 quarters is horrendous.

Even the great Peyton Manning was 5-22 over his career in games where his team ran for less than 50 yards....

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Something to consider with Lock’s struggles over most the game, up until Lindsay’s 55 yard run, the team had only 4 total rushing yards. They simply couldn’t run the ball and were on pace for a historically bad game. Any QB will struggle when his team can only run the ball for 4 yards over 3 quarters....

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Well that 4th quarter was fun! I know one thing, I like winning a lot better than losing

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Herbert has already tripled our QBs touchdowns on the season in this game alone lol.

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Hard to be an OC when you have the worst QB in the NFL...