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  • GiddyupGetEm
    replied to Fire John Elway
    Success is determined by draft position. Undoubtedly, prior to three years ago (your timeline) the early round picks were dreadful...maybe worst in the league.

    Since then, over the last three years, Sutton is the only early round pick I feel has met or exceeded expectation. Jeudy is...
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  • GiddyupGetEm
    replied to Fire John Elway
    If anything, the fairy tale syndrome is on the other side. People think the hero QB is inherently perfect as a GM. This is a real problem with real causes, and it demands real solutions....
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  • GiddyupGetEm
    replied to Fire John Elway
    There is no winning strategy if John Elway is still GM. He has missed big on drafting three early round QBs. Elway is terrible at drafting, especially at drafting QBs....
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  • GiddyupGetEm
    replied to Fire John Elway
    It is all of that!

    It is ego: reportedly agents don’t like Elway’s style of negotiating.

    It is ineptitude: the team’s reputation around the league is we are bad and don’t have the building blocks to meaningfully believe a turnaround can happen.

    It is indifference:...
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  • GiddyupGetEm
    replied to Fire John Elway
    Yes, every team has down years. That is not in dispute. The question for the Broncos is whether they are prepared to take the necessary steps to end the stop the hemorrhaging. They know Elway is responsible for this mess. Strong leaders would make the hard decisions. Weak leaders would wait for Elway’s...
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  • GiddyupGetEm
    replied to Fire John Elway
    You are right. And that is what is wrong with most of Broncos Country currently. Many fans consider SB 32 and 33 reasons to give Elway credit for his job as general manager NOW. Championships as a player have no bearing on one’s job as a GM.

    Why isn’t Terry Bradshaw the Steelers GM?...
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  • GiddyupGetEm
    replied to Fire John Elway
    BINGO!

    It isn’t injuries. It isn’t “getting young players through inexperience”.

    It is bad drafting. It is bad free agent signing. It is bad coaching. It is a bad culture.

    “Just wait one more year” is a mirage! The ONLY SOLUTION IS TO FIRE JOHN ELWAY....
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  • GiddyupGetEm
    replied to Fire John Elway
    And in the real world, you almost always fire and then hire. The Dallas Cowboys hired Mike McCarthy before they fired Jason Garrett, and that was extremely rare.

    I really don’t understand what you think Ellis would do. The NFL is a tight circle. Elway would find out they are talking to...
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  • GiddyupGetEm
    replied to Fire John Elway
    Like I was saying, Ellis has dozens of qualified candidates to choose from. Just because YOU don’t know who to choose as GM doesn’t mean Ellis doesn’t have folks in mind already....
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  • GiddyupGetEm
    replied to Fire John Elway
    A few things. First, I agree a midseason firing of Elway is unlikely. But Joe Ellis needs to hear fans calling for Elway’s firing over the next seven weeks in order to make the decision more justifiable.

    Second, what you’re describing isn’t how the world works. You fire someone and...
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  • GiddyupGetEm
    replied to Fire John Elway
    According to CBS Sports, Elway’s contract was $30 million OVER FIVE YEARS! They wouldn’t be paying him $30 million next year if they fired him.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbs...extension/amp/...
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  • GiddyupGetEm
    replied to Fire John Elway
    Exactly right about not paying our own free agents. When you let Franklin, Beadles, and Paradis walk, you must be sure you have an adequate replacement. What does it say about Elway’s drafting that he never pays his own draft picks going to free agency?? And what does it say about Elway that he is...
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  • GiddyupGetEm
    replied to Fire John Elway
    All of this is compounded by Elway’s failure to draft well. You can handle free agency and the cap if you draft well. But if you draft poorly, you pay more to get less in free agency. And you are right, no one is yearning to come to Denver right now. John Elway, Vic Fangio, and Drew Lock aren’t...
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  • GiddyupGetEm
    replied to Fire John Elway
    Here is scientific proof John Elway has failed as a general manager. I tabulated all drafts from 2011 (Elway’s first year) to 2019 to see how many picks went on to become First-Team All-Pros and Pro Bowlers (source is Pro Football Reference).

    The results are clear: John Elway has failed...
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  • GiddyupGetEm
    replied to Fire John Elway
    I didn’t hear Clough say this, but the inference I got from Sam Z’s description is 10 games or more in 2020....
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  • GiddyupGetEm
    replied to Fire John Elway
    I hope Sandy Clough is right. So 6-10, Elway stays, but 5-11 and Elway quits? That one game is a big difference....
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  • GiddyupGetEm
    replied to Fire John Elway
    It is a fact that John Elway has one of the worst drafting records in the NFL. Particularly damaging are the 1st and 2nd round picks that he has missed on. Those are supposed to be the core of your team for years to come. What you see on the field now--that awful mess of poor play--is because we...
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  • GiddyupGetEm
    replied to Fire John Elway
    Quick reminder. Because John Elway insists on being the face of the franchise, the best head coaches will be reluctant to come to Denver. Head coaches are supposed to be the face of the franchise. They don't like playing second fiddle to the GM. So the Broncos are forced to accept lesser head coaches...
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  • GiddyupGetEm
    replied to Fire John Elway
    Great reason to keep a failure...because a fan doesn’t know who to replace him with.

    There is a league full of personnel professionals. Some of them are actually good at identifying talent, managing a cap, etc. Many of them are better than Elway....
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  • GiddyupGetEm
    replied to Fire John Elway
    Joe Ellis won’t fire Elway if fans don’t make it clear to him that fans love the Broncos more than they love John Elway. The silence from Broncos Country except for ten fans on this forum is tragic.

    Broncos fans get what they accept. We are now on our way to a prolonged period of awfulness....
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