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    Life is definitely okay for Jay. He's made a ton...

    Life is definitely okay for Jay. He's made a ton of money, has a beautiful family and has been doing a lot of good work in Chicago.

    The passer rating argument though is easily refuted. It is...
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    Shanahan had great success with Cutler not...

    Shanahan had great success with Cutler not because he treated him with kid gloves, but because he taught him well, built a good infrastructure around him and because he could call plays with the best...
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    Couldn't agree more. Despite the constant churn...

    Couldn't agree more. Despite the constant churn of offensive systems, he has still done reasonably well when paired with coordinators that knew what they were doing (Shanahan, Martz and Gase). Of the...
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    Broncos defense is allowing 17 points per game...

    Broncos defense is allowing 17 points per game
    Vikings defense is allowing 14.9 points per game

    Regardless, you missed the point of the post entirely.
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    That is the worst narrative on Cutler. He is...

    That is the worst narrative on Cutler. He is arguably the toughest QB in the league. His problem has always been ball security and offensive consistency. He's killing the best defense in the league...
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    Mike Shanahan should have retired a Bronco. Never...

    Mike Shanahan should have retired a Bronco. Never should have been fired. He made this franchise relevant. Bowlen lost my respect that day. Elway owes Shanahan his career and should have brought him...
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    Turns out he was playing with an injury from week...

    Turns out he was playing with an injury from week 1 (that typically knocks a player out for 3-4 weeks) that he re-aggravated early in the game...
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    Agreed. Fox appears to have become a fan of...

    Agreed. Fox appears to have become a fan of Cutler, just like the other experienced coaches have in the past (Shanahan, Lovie Smith). It's unlikely he would trade Cutler, especially to Elway whom he...
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    The main reason the team has had success in the...

    The main reason the team has had success in the recent past is John Fox and Peyton Manning, and this season is Wade Phillips (with a bunch of players Fox groomed).

    That said, the Kubiak/Wade...
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    Cutler's performances this season have proven the...

    Cutler's performances this season have proven the point I've made here several times. He is very good when he has good coaches to work with and not as good when he doesn't. He was excellent under...
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    Kubiak runs an outside zone run game allied with...

    Kubiak runs an outside zone run game allied with a west-coast based passing game. Both of those components are ubiquitous in the NFL. At least a quarter to a third of the teams in the NFL feature the...
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    To be fair, Kubiak and Elway have won nothing...

    To be fair, Kubiak and Elway have won nothing without Mike Shanahan and Terrell Davis.
  13. The severely under-rated genius of Mike Shanahan

    The severely under-rated genius of Mike Shanahan
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    This has to be really hard for Pats fans. Brady...

    This has to be really hard for Pats fans. Brady is revered in NE in a very different way than Elway is in Denver or Marino is in Miami. Brady was admired not for his talent, but for being successful...
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    If you think any of what I said was incorrect,...

    If you think any of what I said was incorrect, there's a bridge salesman I'm happy to recommend.
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    I hear you Dave. I think the overwhelming feeling...

    I hear you Dave. I think the overwhelming feeling about McCown in Chicago was that he had very fortuitous circumstances and that those performances were unlikely to be repeated. Most Bears fans I...
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    Sorry Dave, but that's a very uneducated opinion....

    Sorry Dave, but that's a very uneducated opinion. Most smart folks who watched the majority of Bears games (and I did, being in Chicago) know that McCown's stats don't tell the whole story. The only...
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    Good points. It seems as if with Cutler, he is...

    Good points. It seems as if with Cutler, he is only allowed to have one of the factors needed for success. Either he gets decent WRs or a good defense and when he has both, they go and change the...
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    He went to the NFC Championship Game with Johnny...

    He went to the NFC Championship Game with Johnny Knox, Devin Hester and Earl Bennett as his WRs. By comparison, Megatron and Murray have never gotten that far in the playoffs, nor have the QBs that...
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    Do you have a comprehension disability? Chitown...

    Do you have a comprehension disability? Chitown was talking about the dysfunction in the organization. You respond by talking about his "weapons"? Even your weapons argument is weak - Marshall just...
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    Well said. There is definitely a lack of...

    Well said. There is definitely a lack of perspective when it comes to the narrative about Cutler. It's one thing to call someone a bad player, but Cutler's detractors feel compelled to tarnish his...
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    Cutler doesn't come across as the type of person...

    Cutler doesn't come across as the type of person who regrets saying things just because a bunch of fans got their feelings hurt. He speaks his mind and doesn't seem to care how politically correct...
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    We have seen shots of Brady and Rodgers do the...

    We have seen shots of Brady and Rodgers do the exact same things. They are just fed to you as part of a different narrative.

    We read about Cutler's blue-collar background when he was drafted by...
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    I agree about Chicago and this season but I do...

    I agree about Chicago and this season but I do think if let go by the Bears, he will land as a starter with another team. His current levels of performance and skills are better than many guys that...
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    I think the worst thing to happen to this issue...

    I think the worst thing to happen to this issue was Seattle not converting their last offensive play of the Super Bowl into a TD. There is something in the sports fan's way of thinking where winning...
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