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  1. Thread: Rebuild Time

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    Going into full rebuild mode with a fire sale...

    Going into full rebuild mode with a fire sale would seem to make sense. The problem is that I have very low confidence in the ability of this front office to make good use of the compensatory draft...
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    Poll: The two Super Bowl appearances were with a HOF QB...

    The two Super Bowl appearances were with a HOF QB whom he did not draft. As for being a "successful businessman", are you claiming that any such businessman (or anyone with a "great business...
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    Poll: Led by a DC who wasn't the guy Elway really...

    Led by a DC who wasn't the guy Elway really wanted.
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    Poll: What does being a great player have to do with...

    What does being a great player have to do with being a competent football executive?
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    Poll: It makes no sense to give someone credit for...

    It makes no sense to give someone credit for someone else saving him from a mistake.
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    Poll: ANYONE who thinks a Super Bowl win would have...

    ANYONE who thinks a Super Bowl win would have occurred without that one huge free agency signing is very much mistaken. The objective evidence is that without such a HOF caliber signing, Elway is...
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    Poll: You honestly believe that the young talent on the...

    You honestly believe that the young talent on the team is the nucleus of a future contender?
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    Poll: Another excellent post. No one wants to fire...

    Another excellent post. No one wants to fire Elway "just because", or because he's "not liked". Sentimentality, emotion, etc. doesn't and shouldn't have anything to do with it.
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    Poll: That's what's so disturbing, though. Given the...

    That's what's so disturbing, though. Given the problems with Elway you mentioned, there's no indication that the team is simply going through growing pains as brilliant young talent matures. The...
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    Poll: Your post is excellent and disturbing at the same...

    Your post is excellent and disturbing at the same time.
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    Poll: Four games? This is the third straight YEAR that...

    Four games? This is the third straight YEAR that the team has been poor, and it's clearly getting WORSE. I have no idea what point you're trying to make about Oz. He was a back up at best, and is...
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    Poll: Given a choice between someone who is clearly not...

    Given a choice between someone who is clearly not getting it done and someone who might get it done, it's obvious that the latter choice makes the most sense.
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    Poll: The objective reality is that the team has gone...

    The objective reality is that the team has gone nowhere since the departure of Manning and Wade. That's indisputable, and there is no indication at all that Elway has made the decisions that will...
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    Poll: That's a huge problem. The team has no true...

    That's a huge problem. The team has no true owner who can and will make those kind of big decisions. These are very dark days for the franchise, and I'm not seeing a path for improvement any time...
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    Poll: What is Elway's record since the departure of...

    What is Elway's record since the departure of Manning? What has he done to improve that record?
  16. Thread: Rebuild Time

    by RobertR
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    There are also teams that are mired in mediocrity...

    There are also teams that are mired in mediocrity year after year. What specific ingredients are in place for the Broncos to make a big turnaround? Saying "rah rah, you gotta believe" is no answer.
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    Poll: Calling Elway a competitor and a big fan of the...

    Calling Elway a competitor and a big fan of the team is irrelevant. The only relevant question is his competence at assembling a competitive team. He was able to do it with a Hall of Fame QB who...
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    Poll: I speculated about how much effect the extremely...

    I speculated about how much effect the extremely fortunate occurrence of signing Peyton Manning had on the success of the Broncos and John Elway in particular. It's become increasingly clear to me...
  19. The only relevant statement the players can make...

    The only relevant statement the players can make is with their play on the field. No one is impressed with it.
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    What other team in the NFL thought Tebow was good...

    What other team in the NFL thought Tebow was good enough to win a Super Bowl with a great defense? What other team thought Tebow was good enough to even start? Answer: NONE. That is NOT...
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    It's not conjecture that Tebow never started...

    It's not conjecture that Tebow never started again and wound up out of the league, while Manning wears a ring and is headed to the Hall of Fame.
  22. Living in California, I get see very few Broncos...

    Living in California, I get see very few Broncos games. Sounds like I'm not missing much.
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    I assume you didn't do it intentionally, but you...

    I assume you didn't do it intentionally, but you made me giggle. The word is "parity".
  24. Thread: Flacco

    by RobertR
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    To Elway's everlasting credit.

    To Elway's everlasting credit.
  25. Thread: Flacco

    by RobertR
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    Only those who hated the guy, and who favored the...

    Only those who hated the guy, and who favored the inadequate QB the team had at the time ever doubted that Manning would give it his all. His competitive fire was second to none.
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