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  1. Where has that quality gotten us this year? 1 or...

    Where has that quality gotten us this year? 1 or 2 good passes a game? Manning is embarrassing himself.
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    Even when you're 22 you are going to be sore...

    Even when you're 22 you are going to be sore after a week of practice, let alone games. That's football. A couple weeks go by and your bruised shoulder is healed, only to be replaced by a sore ankle...
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    Kubiak is forcing Peyton to sit out practices. I...

    Kubiak is forcing Peyton to sit out practices. I think the effort to limit Peyton and preserve his fragile health will continue into Preseason.
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    Poll: I'd rather have a 10-6 team that plays like a...

    I'd rather have a 10-6 team that plays like a 10-6 team in the playoffs, rather than a 12-4 or 13-3 team that plays like a 6-10 team in the playoffs.
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    Poll: I agree with you. But those mistakes should not...

    I agree with you. But those mistakes should not happen in the biggest moments. Those moments are when truly great players show why they are great. Those moments are also when great players show their...
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    Poll: I want to see an unconditionally great...

    I want to see an unconditionally great quarterback. I just don't see it anymore. I see a great quarterback's residue.

    Even when healthy, Peyton Manning needs near-perfect execution in order to...
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    Poll: First clip. 50 yard line. On the sideline. Is he...

    First clip. 50 yard line. On the sideline. Is he too wide open? :laugh:

    Second clip. He shouldn't have passed. Period. It was a 3rd down at a pivotal moment. A great player wants the ball in that...
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    Poll: You speak about logical thought processes but...

    You speak about logical thought processes but just presented a completely black & white argument. Those of us who criticize Manning do not overlook the o-line's faults. What about the plays when the...
  9. Manning's hamstring strain is what supposedly...

    Manning's hamstring strain is what supposedly jeopardized the final part of the season.
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    Poll: This argument also works vice versa. A great...

    This argument also works vice versa. A great supporting cast usually does not win all on its own either. Peyton has not been great in the biggest moments, when the rest of the team needed him to be....
  11. Even though that 39 year old vet seems incapable...

    Even though that 39 year old vet seems incapable of finishing a season in one piece? If it's not the ankles, it's the hamstring.
  12. It's the same logic for getting rid of Orton....

    It's the same logic for getting rid of Orton. Albeit Peyton is much better than Orton (when healthy), it's the same concept. At this point in Peyton's career, he's probably not going to win a...
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    False. Orange and white? Booorrrrriiiinngg! ;)

    False. Orange and white? Booorrrrriiiinngg! ;)
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    I'm not sold on Peyton Manning being competitive...

    I'm not sold on Peyton Manning being competitive in big games, or healthy by playoff time. But I'm liking the rest of the team.
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    Seriously. The English messed up back in the day....

    Seriously. The English messed up back in the day. They should have conquered Mexico and given the US to the Spanish. Then we'd all be enjoying amazing weather and the best beaches/jungles.

    And...
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    Vid or it didn't happen.

    Vid or it didn't happen.
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    I forgot Burse was even on the team.

    I forgot Burse was even on the team.
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    http://i38.tinypic.com/16a3bxl.png Something...

    http://i38.tinypic.com/16a3bxl.png

    Something like this maybe, with a modernized tweak.
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    Meh, I'd prefer to have the blue as the primary...

    Meh, I'd prefer to have the blue as the primary and wear orange on Thursdays/Mondays as a tribute to past glory. I preferred the new identity.

    About the only thing I like about orange is the crowd...
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    So if the all-blues were our primary, you'd be...

    So if the all-blues were our primary, you'd be onboard? :beer:
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    The helicopter didn't happen in orange. "This...

    The helicopter didn't happen in orange.

    "This one's for John" didn't happen in orange.

    The two greatest days in franchise history didn't happen in orange.

    /thread :nono:
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    You old geezers are ruining it for us younger...

    You old geezers are ruining it for us younger generations that know blue is better than orange. We don't care that orange used to be cool. We don't want your handmedowns. :P
  23. Agreed for the most part. But, with the game on...

    Agreed for the most part. But, with the game on the line, I'd trust Sanders to make a tough catch more than I would DT. And that says something to me, because I don't think you even have to ask those...
  24. Just my opinion. I appreciate players that play...

    Just my opinion. I appreciate players that play aggressive and to their fullest potential. Sanders sacrifices himself for the success of the team and, despite Manning trying to get him killed every...
  25. I know I'll get flamed but I personally think...

    I know I'll get flamed but I personally think Sanders is better than DT. Sanders seems to show up in the biggest moments on key downs.

    DT is like a Garcon. Great athlete and contributor, but...
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