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    Your last point is the key one. Inside pressure...

    Your last point is the key one. Inside pressure is needed for Von and Chubb to excel. It’s been missing, so teams can move more people to the edge or scheme to allow the edge rush upfield while...
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    Sadly, I have to agree. Harris has been a great...

    Sadly, I have to agree. Harris has been a great Bronco, and I'd love to see him stay. But if the pricetag holds, there's no way it makes sense. I get that Harris has been underpaid relative to his...
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    The way I look at this is we're spoiled by the...

    The way I look at this is we're spoiled by the transcendent QB play from Elway and Manning (at least before his arm went south). Transcendent QBs make the team around them better and can hide...
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    After sleeping on it, Fant could wind up being a...

    After sleeping on it, Fant could wind up being a great pick if he makes a Kelce type impact. If he garners comparisons to Shannon Sharpe down the road, I think we’ll all be thrilled with the pick....
  5. Thread: Drew Lock

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    All teams need a decent QB to be successful. I...

    All teams need a decent QB to be successful. I was for taking a QB at 5 last year, but we tried Keenum. We all know how that worked out. Remains to be seen how Flacco does. But I find myself thinking...
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    There are also Broncos fans who thought Orton was...

    There are also Broncos fans who thought Orton was a good QBs. People get upset when you lose SB’s in embarrassing fashion. I was one of them. But it was also obvious those failures had more to do...
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    Right - no one was going to pay him his full...

    Right - no one was going to pay him his full salary. The guaranteed was $7M, so we gave him another $500K for agreeing to the trade. Capwise, I think (and correct me if I'm wrong), we're on the hook...
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    Thanks - I thought that might be it. Figured we...

    Thanks - I thought that might be it. Figured we would have to shoulder his guaranteed money no matter what. Solid move - saves $3M in cap space compared to cutting him.
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    On the cap, we have $3M dead cap from the signing...

    On the cap, we have $3M dead cap from the signing bonus, and we're paying Keenum a $500K restructure bonus + $3.5M of his salary. Does anyone know what the cap effect of the payments are? It sure...
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    Rosen had a tough season (especially against...

    Rosen had a tough season (especially against us!), but showed some improvement. That Cardinals offense didn't do him any favors. I kind of doubt the Cardinals would want to swap out the QB this...
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    Yeah, I hope that's what happens. It'll still...

    Yeah, I hope that's what happens. It'll still probably involved the Broncos sending cash along with Case, but (hopefully) somewhat less than what they'd pay for a vet minimum signing after Case is...
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    From what I can gather, cutting Case incurs a...

    From what I can gather, cutting Case incurs a $10M cap hit AND his $7M base salary is guaranteed subject to offset. If Case signs for X, the Broncos pay the remainder of his $7M ($7M-X). But...
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    Case will be cut - no team is going to trade for...

    Case will be cut - no team is going to trade for him. If he’s cut, the dead cap is $10M. Unless I’m missing something, there’s no way around that. The Broncos and Flacco May renegotiate to lower his...
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    Flacco’s an upgrade, but enough to eat Keenum’s...

    Flacco’s an upgrade, but enough to eat Keenum’s dead cap?

    I don’t think this changes the draft much at all. Getting a day 1 starter at QB with pick 10 has never been realistic. We’ll be lucky if...
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    Nothing against Flacco, this doesn’t seem like an...

    Nothing against Flacco, this doesn’t seem like an upgrade, particularly not at the cost of a 4th + Flacco’s salary + Keemun dead money. There goes at least $10M that could have gone to a FA pickup,...
  16. I see interior pressure as a high priority. We've...

    I see interior pressure as a high priority. We've seen plenty of what happens to the edge rush when the QB can step forward, and how suspect our coverage is when the QB has time. It's the only...
  17. For those who did bother to watch, there was a...

    For those who did bother to watch, there was a good lesson for our QB search. Decision making speed really matters. Brady, as much as I dislike him, is great at this, as was Manning. Goff not so...
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    This is true, but the inverse isn't: Having...

    This is true, but the inverse isn't: Having mediocre stats in college does not translate to being special in the pros. The vast majority of QBs drafted don't become anything special, even those...
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    We need to draft a QB. I don't think that's in...

    We need to draft a QB. I don't think that's in question. The hit rate is low on QBs. But the best we're going to do at 10 is the 3rd QB off the board. And it may be worse than that. Whichever QB...
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    Yes QB. The hit rate is too low to wait for next...

    Yes QB. The hit rate is too low to wait for next year. Keep drafting QBs until one sticks. That said, at 10 we're most likely looking at the 3rd QB off the board. QBs 3-5 all have issues and will...
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    I was hoping Foles would lead the Eagles to...

    I was hoping Foles would lead the Eagles to another championship, in which case it would be hard for Philly to let him go. But it was always a moonshot. I'm with you on Keenum - he's not good, but...
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    I didn’t say they were similar and noted Rivers...

    I didn’t say they were similar and noted Rivers isn’t as good. Just pointed out the parallels in that both were thought of as very good QBs with doubts about their ability to win big games late in...
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    A lot of parallels between Rivers and Elway at...

    A lot of parallels between Rivers and Elway at this point in their careers. Rivers isn't as good, and he's a jerk, but he's been a decent QB for a long time with doubts about his ability to win big...
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    yeah, hit send too quickly! I share the envy -...

    yeah, hit send too quickly! I share the envy - it's exciting to watch a young player elevate his team and know that your team always has a chance. Case doesn't exactly inspire the same sense of hope!
  25. You go your way, we'll go ELWAY! As a kid, my...

    You go your way, we'll go ELWAY! As a kid, my parents took me to a Stanford game where I saw Elway hit Marjerum for a TD from behind the 50. I followed him to the Farm and got to watch Eddie Mac haul...
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