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    Moss Hopes To Be Back In Lineup vs. SD

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    And, for Jarvis Moss, it was still an evening of disappointment.

    "Yeah, I wanted to play on Monday Night Football," Moss said Wednesday. "First game of the season, that's tough to have to sit there and watch. But I'm a team player, supportive, and the team was successful and that's all that really matters."

    Moss, a former first-round pick, was a game-day inactive in the Broncos' 41-14 win against the Raiders and relegated to street clothes, a conspicuous absence in the Broncos defense.

    Broncos coach Mike Shanahan said since Moss has largely been in the role of rush specialist in training camp and the preseason, he lost his game-day spot when the Broncos decided they needed more bulk in the lineup against the Raiders' run game.

    So that meant defensive tackle Nic Clemons was in uniform instead among the eight defensive linemen who were active for the game. Clemons appeared in the rotation up front during the game.

    "I guess that's what my call was for that week," Moss said. "I was still into the game, watching, just trying to help guys as much as I could (with) what I saw out there on the field."

    The Broncos on Sunday (2:15 p.m., CBS 4) face the Chargers, another run-heavy team with a big offensive line.

    "This week hopefully will be different," Moss said. "I know Coach said he's going to watch and see how everybody works this week and make it a game-time decision regarding this week."

    Moss was the 17th player selected in the 2007 draft - the Broncos traded up to select him - but he missed 10 games last season because of a fractured lower right leg. In his return, he has yet to elevate himself into a lot of playing time with the starters.

    He has lined up in practice from time to time in a first-team nickel (five defensive backs) rush package, but it has been Elvis Dumervil and John Engelberger at the two end spots in the starting defense, and the Broncos used Ebenezer Ekuban and Tim Crowder as the backup defensive ends against the Raiders.

    Crowder and Ekuban also can line up at defensive tackle in some situations, so it gives them more versatility when the Broncos are trying to decide whom to keep among the 45 players in uniform on game day.

    Still, Moss said he knows what he has to do now to get on the field.

    "Just work," he said. " . . . I'm trying to outwork some people, that's what I'm going to do . . . I've just got to work, I got to get better so I can get out there. I want to be out on the field on game day, and that's the only thing I'm really concerned with."

    Two other players in Moss' draft class Marcus Thomas and Ryan Harris were in the starting lineup for the Broncos against the Raiders. The other player selected by the team that year, Crowder, was in the rotation in the defensive line.




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    I still find it hard to believe that Shanahan wouldn't dress Moss because he wanted more "Bulk" up front.

    Being the 17th overall pick a year ago, and being healthy.... he should be dressed.

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    Cutler Has 300 Yard Passing Game/ Dumervil Has First Sack

    After further review . . .

    Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler officially has his third career 300-yard passing game on Monday.

    After reviewing the video, the Elias Sports Bureau, the league's official statistician, gave Cutler 1 additional passing yard. He initially was given 299 yards passing in the statistics calculated at McAfee Coliseum, but what was called a 2-yard completion to tight end Nate Jackson with 5:56 to play in the game was ruled to have been a 3-yard completion instead.

    The Broncos also were credited with a team sack, for a 10-yard loss, on the play in the first quarter when Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell fumbled as he tried to avoid the rush.

    Russell had fumbled before Broncos defensive end Dumervil made contact with him.

    That play initially had been ruled a rush for minus-10 yards.




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    Quote Originally Posted by B4Bronco6 View Post
    I still find it hard to believe that Shanahan wouldn't dress Moss because he wanted more "Bulk" up front.

    Being the 17th overall pick a year ago, and being healthy.... he should be dressed.
    Me to B4...kinda conspicuous if you ask me....I heard somebody mention "flu like symptoms for Moss" but they never gave me a source...so I assume that was false.

    And if the "bulk" thing was the case...why would he play this Sunday vs. SD??? We all know they're going to run the ball with 2006 NFL MVP LT




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    How do you sit your 1st round pick from a year ago?

    I'm sorry, but either Moss is just completely lost or the Broncos dont seem to know what to do with him.....which I doubt either way.

    It just doesnt make sense to me.

    I'm not seeing him with the Broncos long term the way things are going, which is unfortunate for Moss and the organization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chidoze View Post
    How do you sit your 1st round pick from a year ago?

    I'm sorry, but either Moss is just completely lost or the Broncos dont seem to know what to do with him.....which I doubt either way.

    It just doesnt make sense to me.

    I'm not seeing him with the Broncos long term the way things are going, which is unfortunate for Moss and the organization.
    I think they should let Moss play this season...maybe he racks up 4+ sacks...and trade him when his value is at it's highest...Shanahan isn't ready to declare it...and I'm not ready to declare a bust yet, but maybe he's just not right for this team




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    I hope Moss can get on the field.. he just needs to make something happen when he does.. otherwise I will not be surprised to see the Broncos try and move him to another team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broncoben View Post
    I hope Moss can get on the field.. he just needs to make something happen when he does.. otherwise I will not be surprised to see the Broncos try and move him to another team.
    definately...I can't imagine what we could've used that 1st round pick last year for though instead of Moss...a safety probably like Michael Griffin or Reggie Nelson I would think...nothing else better up there




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    I have been pulling for Moss from day one, because he seems to be trying but he just doesn't have enough something or other.....maybe it's the strength thing, becuase he certainly has sack potential. Our problem here seems to be that we have 2 players (Doom and Moss) who are too one dimensional, although we know Doom is much better at this point. And Doom will be a pro bowler. But it may be a luxury to have too many one dimensional DEs.

    I think Moss will play against the "passing teams", but unless he plays regularly, for that matter - dresses for the game, his stock and confidence will dwindle. Otherwise we'll probably end up with a very late draft pick for his services. It's too early for that proposition. But it may be the end result.

    So I want him in the lineup to show what he can do. Maybe a couple of sacks will turn his year around. But if it's about his strength than he's got a problem. There are many, many examples of light weight DEs who made it to the pro bowl (ie. Jason Taylor). You don't have to be 270 or more at that position. BUT if you are not a strong 2__ whatever, you better be a ball hawk.

    Cmon Moss, have Rivers for lunch!!!

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    I hope he is in uniform and has rivers on his back on more then one ocasion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by getlynched47 View Post
    I think they should let Moss play this season...
    Those who have earned the right to play are on the field on game day.

    maybe he racks up 4+ sacks...and trade him when his value is at it's highest...
    Maybe he costs us a game or two. . .and no one will take him even on a bet.

    Shanahan isn't ready to declare it...and I'm not ready to declare a bust yet, but maybe he's just not right for this team
    Then why would you want him on the field taking a spot that someone else deserves?

    I don't know what the problem is with Moss or what his ceiling as a player is but putting him on the field because he was a first round pick or to troll him for trade bait doesn't sound to me to be in the best interest of the Broncos to me.
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    Considering Shanahan was willing to sit him against the Raiders.. then I think that shows that Shanahan is willing ot only put those on the field that he thinks will HELP the team and put the best players for the game plan in the lineup.

    Thus... by the simple logic.. if Moss is dressing for this game, he must feel Moss would be a benefit to the TEAM by being dressed out and on the field playing.
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    Im sorry but Moss was getting schooled by 3rd Stringers in the last Pre-Season game. The guy just does not have it.

    Im going to say what is on alot of people's minds right now. Moss is a bust!

    Now im all up for him proving me wrong this year and all, but I don't think I will hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

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    "Two other players in Moss' draft class Marcus Thomas and Ryan Harris were in the starting lineup for the Broncos against the Raiders. The other player selected by the team that year, Crowder, was in the rotation in the defensive line."

    Doesn't matter, not even a little, if Moss fails, so does the GM......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperBagBronco View Post
    Im sorry but Moss was getting schooled by 3rd Stringers in the last Pre-Season game. The guy just does not have it.

    Im going to say what is on alot of people's minds right now. Moss is a bust!

    Now im all up for him proving me wrong this year and all, but I don't think I will hold my breath waiting for that to happen.
    You make it sound like you are the only one to say it

    The boards have been FLOODED with "moss is a bust" posts and comments.

    I'll just say what I have always said and stick with my guns on it.

    I think its ridiculous to call ANY player a bust that has LITERALLY been a NFL player for 16 months and had to sit out his first season due to injury. I KNOW... allllllll first round picks should be PRO-BOWL players by the first season or they are busts. The NFL is not a place for patience anymore, and god forbid a young player takes longer than what is deemed "expected" by the impatient fans that think the signing bonus money should be a promise of IMMEDIATE success.

    What some of you guys would do back in the day when they actually had a 5 year plan for a player instead of a 6 month plan.

    I don't know if the guy will ever develop or not. But I'll be damned if I'm going to call some kid (who was projected to be a work in progress when drafted) a 'bust' simply because he's not a star right out of the shoot.

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