MMA Thread.

[Southstander]

For the first time since the 1990's I tuned in to see and MMA fight. I wanted to see how Kimbo would do against Shamrock. After I found out that Shamrock was scratched I thought that the guy they found to replace him would get rocked. Boy was I wrong!! Kimbo got his butt handeled to him on a silver platter in 14 seconds. You could tell the exact moment he got his lights dimmed.



I think Kimbo has been exposed. After this he wont be able to get a game of jacks.

[Fins4Life]

For the first time since the 1990's I tuned in to see and MMA fight. I wanted to see how Kimbo would do against Shamrock. After I found out that Shamrock was scratched I thought that the guy they found to replace him would get rocked. Boy was I wrong!! Kimbo got his butt handeled to him on a silver platter in 14 seconds. You could tell the exact moment he got his lights dimmed.



I think Kimbo has been exposed. After this he wont be able to get a game of jacks.

Who beat him?

[Southstander]

Seth Petruzelli

[y2cragie]

Is anyone honestly surprised?
I think Shamrock would have done the same thing.
Kimbo's been given a bunch of scrubs with no real martial arts experience, just a bunch of no name brawlers like Kimbo. Put him up against someone with a proper MMA background, and martial arts experience and he didn't stand a chance.
His reaction afterwards was poor as well, to go after the ref? He's just lucky it wasn't Big John Mcarthey, otherwise we'd never hear of Kimbo again LOL.
Hopefully this will be the last we have to hear of this guy anyway. If not put him in the octogon with a huge hitter like Congo, Lesnar, Couture and put him away for good.

[Chris Wade]

I always told the girls it's skill not muscles .

[Nightwing]

Kimbo got beat by an extremely mediocre light heavyweight that couldn't cut it in the UFC...



This is too good to be true. EliteXC just saw their cash cow get exposed on TV.

But guys, really, Shamrock getting injured was the worst thing that could have happened to Kimbo. Ken Shamrock's age has caught up to him, in a way that Randy Couture's hasn't, and his chin has become weaker with the years. One punch and he would have taken a dive. And this is from a pretty big Shamrock fan, well, a Frank Shamrock fan at least.

On the bright side, Andrei Arlovsky looked great, punches were crisp and clean, looks like he'll get a shot at Fedor next.

[CutlerEra06]

well im glad to see some of you(nightwing) know your mma.


FOR THE FIRST TIME WATCHERS:

The CBS fights that were on do not give mma the justice it deserves. Its much more than a brawling street thug fight, its has so much skill and technical mechanics that go into it. The UFC is what will show you what mma is all about. Their fighters are some of the best conditioned athletes in the world and maybe 1-3 guys from Elite xc CBS could actually do decent in the UFC. Comparing the two is like NFL football to Canadian football league. Sure they know what they are doing, but the level of skill is on a whole different level. That being said, I hope you enjoyed the fights and just please remember that mma is not about knocking some guys head off. I hate that CBS is putting on a card to show new watchers and skeptics what mma is. Watch a UFC payperview if you were completely turned off by the CBS fights and it will show you what a true mma is all about.

but still a great card, I enjoy anything mma and it being free was just amazing.

[baphamet]

Is anyone honestly surprised?
I think Shamrock would have done the same thing.
Kimbo's been given a bunch of scrubs with no real martial arts experience, just a bunch of no name brawlers like Kimbo. Put him up against someone with a proper MMA background, and martial arts experience and he didn't stand a chance.
His reaction afterwards was poor as well, to go after the ref? He's just lucky it wasn't Big John Mcarthey, otherwise we'd never hear of Kimbo again LOL.
Hopefully this will be the last we have to hear of this guy anyway. If not put him in the octogon with a huge hitter like Congo, Lesnar, Couture and put him away for good.

agreed, put him in there against Houston Alexander, thats the only way the fight will be entertaining.

it would only be a under card though, can see it on ufc in demand.

[baphamet]

For the first time since the 1990's I tuned in to see and MMA fight. I wanted to see how Kimbo would do against Shamrock. After I found out that Shamrock was scratched I thought that the guy they found to replace him would get rocked. Boy was I wrong!! Kimbo got his butt handeled to him on a silver platter in 14 seconds. You could tell the exact moment he got his lights dimmed.



I think Kimbo has been exposed. After this he wont be able to get a game of jacks.

watch UFC 89 for free on spike if you want to see top level MMA http://89.ufc.com/

if you seriously havent watched since the 90's then it has to be a huge shock to watch it now.

its actually a legitimate sport now where back then it more more of a spectacle.

[Southstander]

watch UFC 89 for free on spike if you want to see top level MMA http://89.ufc.com/

if you seriously havent watched since the 90's then it has to be a huge shock to watch it now.

its actually a legitimate sport now where back then it more more of a spectacle.

I think the last one was UFC 8. Way back when there was only three rules No eye gouging, No Fish hooking, and I can't remember the other one.

[CutlerEra06]

for those of you whom are interested in these match ups, pick the winners:

Brock lesnar vs Randy Couture

Joe Stevenson vs Kenny Florian

Chris Leben vs Micheal Bisping

Anderson silva vs Patrick cote

Thiago Alves vs Diego Sanchez

Urija Faber vs Mike Brown

Robbie lawler vs Joey Villasenor

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs Frank Mir

forrest Griffin vs Rashad evans

Quinten "rampage" jackson vs Wanderlei Silva

Rich Franklin vs Dan Henderson @ 205

Mauricio "shogun" Rua vs Marc Coleman

George St. Pierre vs Bj penn

Lyoto Machida vs Thiago Silva


my winners: Randy, Florian, Leben, Anderson Silva, Alves, Faber, Lawler, Nogueira, Griffin, Wanderlei Silva, Henderson, Shogun, BJ and Thiago Silva

[y2cragie]

I'd only disagree with you on two picks.
I think Lesnar will hand it to Randy, I think with all the greatest respect in the world to Couture, he's getting older, slower, his time out of the octagon isnt going to help, and I think Lesnar has developed enough to take advantage of it.

Also, I can't see B.J. Penn beating GSP. St. Pierre is light years ahead of anyone else in that division right now. I think it'll be a long fight to a decision and could be fight of the night, but i'd give the nod right now to GSP.

[baphamet]

I think the last one was UFC 8. Way back when there was only three rules No eye gouging, No Fish hooking, and I can't remember the other one.

no biting

[CutlerEra06]

I'd only disagree with you on two picks.
I think Lesnar will hand it to Randy, I think with all the greatest respect in the world to Couture, he's getting older, slower, his time out of the octagon isnt going to help, and I think Lesnar has developed enough to take advantage of it.

Also, I can't see B.J. Penn beating GSP. St. Pierre is light years ahead of anyone else in that division right now. I think it'll be a long fight to a decision and could be fight of the night, but i'd give the nod right now to GSP.

well for that big of a list, and to only disagree with 2 is actually pretty crazy! MMA is so diverse, and often the huge favorite gets upset/beat just when everyone thinks he is unstoppable. Anyways, regarding the lesnar couture fight, its the worst possible match up for Randy. Randy does not do so well against bigger and stronger wrestlers, see the mike van arsdale fight. He does not do bad against them, he just struggles, although he won that fight anyways. The whole octagon main event thing is new to brock. Just like being at a new job you might not know how to handle certain things on the fly, but its just another day at the office for Randy. Hes so composed and is so experienced Its hard to bet against him. Do I see lesnar bullrushing Randy and totally dominating him? yeah I can, but ill take the cool and relaxed veteran over the green brock right now. Randy might have slowed, but hes still legit. The way he dominated Tim-slothlike-sylvia was amazing. He out stuck him all fight and showed he still has it. I just cant pick against Randy, not to mention he is one of the best gameplanners in the business next to marc delagrate(sp) and greg jackson.

As for bj vs GSP....Yeah GSP is dominant right now, very dominant, but bj has better stand up, better chin and a better jitz game. After their first fight, bj said "He spent the night in the hospital, I spent the night at a party" which was very true. Its kinda like pick your poison for GSP. Stand with bj when bj has better hands and chin, or take him down gsp style and risk being in the guard of bj. This will definitely be the hardest fight for both of them, but if bj has the cardio, I think he'll get it by submission in the 3rd or 4th round. Lets just hope for some great fights!

[GridironChamp]

Kimbo lost a fight via an unlucky/lucky (depends on your stance) punch. It wasnt
even a hard punch, it just hit him int he right spot at the right time, at the
right angle, ect....

He was never really hurt, but the way he tried to keep fighting the ref he wasnt
all there in the head. I think he'll be back because he can/does make more money
in 1 UFC fight than all his street fights. He has lost a fight before, so I dont
think that will effect him. Sure, he will never be very good, he will be like a
better trained version of Tank Abbot... but who didnt like him?