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    Quote Originally Posted by B4Bronco6 View Post
    Scrape in the knee?

    More like a stab in the back.
    B4.....in the short term it appeared that way to some, but in the long term I believe it will work itself...to me it was a knee scrape in terms of the big picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HorseStance View Post
    Only problem is that the season start is months away.... we will have to wait until then to see if any of their plans take shape and translate into wins.

    But i agree i can see what they are doing, bringing B-Dawk in was a great move, our D lacked a leader and we instantly have one, sure he's a little old but if rotated off the field on some passing plays i think he's got another two years in him (he's apparently in very good shape).

    Bringing Gaff in makes sense as well he's played in McDaniel's system before so he knows the general plan, he can help the other guys learn it and get comfortable with the routes e.t.c..

    On the D side of things he's bringing in some veteran guys how are where they are because they have worked hard and they bring that attitude to the field. They are obviously trying to get the base 3-4 in shape as soon as possible but the issue with it is that we are lacking up front. Fields right now is our NT which is not ideal and we are not sure how well Peterson and Thomas can do as ends in a 3-4. Training camp will tell the coaches a lot as to whether we can fully transition this year or if we will still need 4-3 fronts because of what our players can and can't do well. If we can get Raji or Brace in the first or second that could help at nose but they also might not be nfl ready. Tyson Jackson or Jarron Gilbert could help us at end, but, both off these positions could do with extra depth from FA so the position is competitive and we end up with the right guy in there.

    As for the offense, it's going to look very different to last year as well. Our existing skilled players will still be around with the exception of maybe Scheffler . But they will be playing different roles and Jay will have to learn a lot this off season to be up to speed by sept. Josh was never going to come over here and try and keep what Shanny put in place because thats not what he knows and can coach effectively. He has proven in his career with NE that he is an offensive specialist and he can figure out a way to win even if his starting QB goes down.. (not thats it's going to happen again here). He kept the Line coach and the RB coach so he will probably try and keep the line and the zone blocking system that worked so well last season but his WR set up will be drastically different.

    I'm really looking forward to seeing how this all translates on the field and if we can get above .500 this season considering our schedule is so tough.

    Also would love to see us playing in orange as our home colours this season i think it would be making a statement "the crush is back baby" and other teams better watch the hell out!!

    :go:
    Like your thinking. And you are right, this is a tough schedule ahead, so it's not a straight one to one comparison with 08. 9 and 7 this year would be a good record.....but I'm hoping for 10 and 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbronc30 View Post
    This is how you post something like this.
    You copy and paste the text, and then add the link for verification of the story...

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/11464998


    Broncos breakdown: McDaniel the man with the plan
    March 6, 2009
    By Michael Lombardi
    National Football Post



    The Denver Broncos have been busy this offseason as they attempt to rebuild and reconstruct their team. One thing that has become very apparent in the first week of free agency is that head coach Josh McDaniels is firmly in charge. Just ask Jay Cutler.


    In spite of his youthful appearance, McDaniels has a plan, and part of that plan is to change things -- dramatically. I compared all the Denver moves earlier to a college team that hires a new coach and raids the junior college programs to increase its core talent level in hopes of winning as it rebuilds.

    I see the "Year 1" part of the plan is to increase the Broncos' talent and character level along with getting everyone to understand the new method of operations on and off the field. The word "compete" is the focus each time the players enter the building. However, one question still hasn't been answered: Where do all the pieces fit?

    First, the key component of the McDaniels plan is to increase the level of competition in practice. Read the book by Jim Collins, Good to Great, and you realize that everything we must do to achieve our goals comes in gradual steps of progress. McDaniels seems willing to invest money in players who are not significantly better than what he may or may not have, but he's willing to make this move in order to increase the level of competition at each practice.

    Churchill once said, "Fear does the work of reason." When there is competition, players are fearful of losing their jobs, so they work harder, practice harder and pay attention harder. As George Young, the late GM of the Giants, used to say, "The hungry soldier is the best solider." McDaniels is trying to lay a foundation of competitiveness and professionalism. There's a plan here.

    We know the Broncos are going to a 3-4 hybrid defense, and since they were the worst team in the NFL in terms of defensive talent, this move shouldn't be hard to make. Any move here means instant starter and instant help, regardless of how small the improvement might be. Switching from the 4-3 to the 3-4 requires finding some base ends who can handle the tackles in the league and play with power. It also requires a nose tackle who can play the run and is physical inside.

    All parts were not in stock when McDaniels and Mike Nolan took over this defense, so it will be a work in progress. Patience is a virtue in Denver. Playing sound, fundamental defense and not being as scheme creative as they were in the past should help the Broncos cut down on all the big plays allowed on defense.


    Here are their transactions so far:

    OFFENSE
    Chris Simms, QB -- He's a good leader and very hungry for a starting job. Joining McDaniels will rejuvenate his career. He'll keep the pressure on and always competes.

    LaMont Jordan, RB -- A big back who cannot be the starter. But he can wear down teams and is a very good short yardage runner.

    J.J. Arrington, RB -- Kickoff return specialist and a jack-of-all-trades. The Kevin Faulk of the Rockies.

    Correll Buckhalter, RB -- Another back who cannot be the main man, but he and Jordan might be able to complement each other. Between the two of them, the Broncos might have one back.

    Jabar Gaffney, WR -- McDaniels needed someone who can show the other wideouts what the offense is about and someone he can trust to prepare and play the game the right way. This signing will help on the field, but more off the field.


    DEFENSE
    Kenny Peterson, DT -- He has played well for the Broncos and might be the best defensive lineman from the old regime. He is best when he's on the move and might be best suited to an inside nickel tackle role.

    Darrell Reid, DT -- Comes from the one-gap scheme of the Colts and is best suited to be on the move. Plays a little bigger than his size, however, he's not a zero technique nose and will need to be on the move.

    Ronald Fields, DT -- Will significantly help the defense in terms of power and technique. He is strong and can hold the line of scrimmage. My favorite signing of the Broncos.

    Andra Davis, LB -- Not very fast, will struggle in pass coverage and struggle to make space plays. He's very limited, and I doubt he can hold the starting job all year. They might be able to draft over him.

    Andre' Goodman, CB -- Smart and tough and coming off his best season. He might not have great speed, but he has balance and can make plays.

    Renaldo Hill, CB/FS -- He's a football player -- smart and aware of the game -- but he's limited in some areas of athletic talent. He can play inside slot, and as long as everyone knows his speed limitations, he will be able to make plays.

    Brian Dawkins, S -- Like Gaffney, he was signed for his off-the-field talents as much as his on-field talent.

    Lonnie Paxton, C -- He helps McDaniels set up his kicking game. Not sure I would have spent the money on a replaceable position.

    Even after all this, there is still much work to do. The Broncos must find a pass rushing outside backer, and it appears to me they will focus on defensive players in the draft. Improving the core special teams players and defensive talent is the first order of business in the draft. This free agent class will never make a splash, but the Broncos have to get good before they get great. Great players need to come from the draft.

    Competition is the Golden Rule, and McDaniels is the boss. We've learned this in the last week.

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    Welcome Coach McDaniels

    Hey Coach, I'm glad that Pat Bowlen recognized our franchise's guilty culprit. He decided to go in a different direction as far as philosophy is concerned and that is where you come into play. I like your tough, hard nosed, no-bullcrap approach. This is what the players need the most as they seem to be very non chalant and stuck on themselves(Jay Cutler, Brandon Marshall). Not to mention the smell of arrogance in the air. Wow that stinks.

    I hope you brought your draino foamer because our pipes are rotten from the inside out. You might need a wire-brush to scrub out the tough turds. I would like you commend you for the FA's you have brought in so far. You basically make it known that your philosphy will now be the Bronco's philosophy. I like what you did with the Patriots, and you know what they say. If you can't beat them, join 'em.

    I would like to ask you to be sensitive with Jay Cutler as his feelings can become hurt very easily. Hold his little hand and bring him along. He knows he has potential and so does the rest of the world. Don't fudge that up. Fudge has fecal properties.

    If you are looking for some talent I can give you my contact information. Just send me a private message.

    btw Thank you for signing a halfway decent Safety. The guys we had in there before were like pawns on a chessboard. Catch my drift?

    With that I wish you goodlook in the draft. And remember these words, "Those who fail to prepare, prepare to fail."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigplayshay84 View Post
    Hey Coach, I'm glad that Pat Bowlen recognized our franchise's guilty culprit. He decided to go in a different direction as far as philosophy is concerned and that is where you come into play. I like your tough, hard nosed, no-bullcrap approach. This is what the players need the most as they seem to be very non chalant and stuck on themselves(Jay Cutler, Brandon Marshall). Not to mention the smell of arrogance in the air. Wow that stinks.

    I hope you brought your draino foamer because our pipes are rotten from the inside out. You might need a wire-brush to scrub out the tough turds. I would like you commend you for the FA's you have brought in so far. You basically make it known that your philosphy will now be the Bronco's philosophy. I like what you did with the Patriots, and you know what they say. If you can't beat them, join 'em.

    I would like to ask you to be sensitive with Jay Cutler as his feelings can become hurt very easily. Hold his little hand and bring him along. He knows he has potential and so does the rest of the world. Don't fudge that up. Fudge has fecal properties.

    If you are looking for some talent I can give you my contact information. Just send me a private message.

    btw Thank you for signing a halfway decent Safety. The guys we had in there before were like pawns on a chessboard. Catch my drift?

    With that I wish you goodlook in the draft. And remember these words, "Those who fail to prepare, prepare to fail."

    What hard nosed, no BS approach. Him willing to stab Cutler in the back by not even letting him know what's going on. Giving Cutler a huge line of BS about how much he wants to work with Cutler.

    OHHH that ?non? BS.

    Shanny was failing on defense, I know that. But he built a kick arse offense that only needed a running game. I really wanted to see what he could do with an offseason focused just on defense.

    Now we have McD, and I really want to see what he can do focusing on just the defense. But if he tears that offense apart because he wants his own and it doesn't perform, get him the hell out of Denver. Their is no reason to be mucking up the offense.

    But then again we have to realize that we have no idea how this deal went down. What McD did, maybe he could have got Cassel and turned it down. Who knows. But I don't understand how you know just what his approach is. I sure don't, as he has done nothing for sure so far that shows me just what kind of coach he is.

    But I'm willing to give him a chance.:go:
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    Broncos breakdown: McDaniels the man with the plan

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/11464998/rss


    I see the "Year 1" part of the plan is to increase the Broncos' talent and character level along with getting everyone to understand the new method of operations on and off the field. The word "compete" is the focus each time the players enter the building. However, one question still hasn't been answered: Where do all the pieces fit?

    First, the key component of the McDaniels plan is to increase the level of competition in practice. Read the book by Jim Collins, Good to Great, and you realize that everything we must do to achieve our goals comes in gradual steps of progress. McDaniels seems willing to invest money in players who are not significantly better than what he may or may not have, but he's willing to make this move in order to increase the level of competition at each practice.

    Churchill once said, "Fear does the work of reason." When there is competition, players are fearful of losing their jobs, so they work harder, practice harder and pay attention harder. As George Young, the late GM of the Giants, used to say, "The hungry soldier is the best solider." McDaniels is trying to lay a foundation of competitiveness and professionalism. There's a plan here.

    We know the Broncos are going to a 3-4 hybrid defense, and since they were the worst team in the NFL in terms of defensive talent, this move shouldn't be hard to make. Any move here means instant starter and instant help, regardless of how small the improvement might be. Switching from the 4-3 to the 3-4 requires finding some base ends who can handle the tackles in the league and play with power. It also requires a nose tackle who can play the run and is physical inside.

    All parts were not in stock when McDaniels and Mike Nolan took over this defense, so it will be a work in progress. Patience is a virtue in Denver. Playing sound, fundamental defense and not being as scheme creative as they were in the past should help the Broncos cut down on all the big plays allowed on defense.


    Here are their transactions so far:

    OFFENSE

    Chris Simms, QB -- He's a good leader and very hungry for a starting job. Joining McDaniels will rejuvenate his career. He'll keep the pressure on and always competes.

    LaMont Jordan, RB -- A big back who cannot be the starter. But he can wear down teams and is a very good short yardage runner.

    J.J. Arrington, RB -- Kickoff return specialist and a jack-of-all-trades. The Kevin Faulk of the Rockies.

    Correll Buckhalter, RB -- Another back who cannot be the main man, but he and Jordan might be able to complement each other. Between the two of them, the Broncos might have one back.

    Jabar Gaffney, WR -- McDaniels needed someone who can show the other wideouts what the offense is about and someone he can trust to prepare and play the game the right way. This signing will help on the field, but more off the field.

    DEFENSE

    Kenny Peterson, DT -- He has played well for the Broncos and might be the best defensive lineman from the old regime. He is best when he's on the move and might be best suited to an inside nickel tackle role.

    Darrell Reid, DT -- Comes from the one-gap scheme of the Colts and is best suited to be on the move. Plays a little bigger than his size, however, he's not a zero technique nose and will need to be on the move.

    Ronald Fields, DT -- Will significantly help the defense in terms of power and technique. He is strong and can hold the line of scrimmage. My favorite signing of the Broncos.

    Andra Davis, LB -- Not very fast, will struggle in pass coverage and struggle to make space plays. He's very limited, and I doubt he can hold the starting job all year. They might be able to draft over him.

    Andre' Goodman, CB -- Smart and tough and coming off his best season. He might not have great speed, but he has balance and can make plays.

    Renaldo Hill, CB/FS -- He's a football player -- smart and aware of the game -- but he's limited in some areas of athletic talent. He can play inside slot, and as long as everyone knows his speed limitations, he will be able to make plays.

    Brian Dawkins, S -- Like Gaffney, he was signed for his off-the-field talents as much as his on-field talent.

    Lonnie Paxton, C -- He helps McDaniels set up his kicking game. Not sure I would have spent the money on a replaceable position.

    Even after all this, there is still much work to do. The Broncos must find a pass rushing outside backer, and it appears to me they will focus on defensive players in the draft. Improving the core special teams players and defensive talent is the first order of business in the draft. This free agent class will never make a splash, but the Broncos have to get good before they get great. Great players need to come from the draft.

    Competition is the Golden Rule, and McDaniels is the boss. We've learned this in the last wee
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbronc30 View Post
    Good read, thx for posting.....I sure hope he's right, but this is how change works if done right. It's swift, most people don't like it, but it works in the end because the the person who insighted the change had the proper vision. That being said, it was still a VERY STUPID move to consider trading Cutler. Pretty sure that would have sealed his fate here had it actually happened. So someday, he will look back and say "thank GOD that didn't work out"....other than that, it all makes me very uneasy, but I trust the vision for now....mostly because I have no other choice!!

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    deja vu?


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    Quote Originally Posted by 4th Amigo View Post
    Good read, thx for posting.....I sure hope he's right, but this is how change works if done right. It's swift, most people don't like it, but it works in the end because the the person who insighted the change had the proper vision. That being said, it was still a VERY STUPID move to consider trading Cutler. Pretty sure that would have sealed his fate here had it actually happened. So someday, he will look back and say "thank GOD that didn't work out"....other than that, it all makes me very uneasy, but I trust the vision for now....mostly because I have no other choice!!
    true dat ..........

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    I will wait and see but at this point he hasn't done anything that gains my respect or deserves it.

    Dawkins a Start, beyond that nothing.....Most of you guys say give him a chance and he will prove himself, After the ALMOST Worst Trade in Broncos history...He must earn it here and I won't make it easy and don't care what anyone else thinks...
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    What hard nosed, no BS approach. Him will to stab Cutler in the back by not even letting him know what's going on. Giving Cutler a huge line of BS about how much he wants to work with Cutler.

    OHHH that ?non? BS.
    Um? I'm sorry but I can't understand this incoherent puke you just spewed. What I think you were trying to say is: "Him go stab Cutler in back by trade blocking him. Telling Cutler that he wants him, however it is going to be different"

    "incoherent psycho babble"

    Shanny was failing on defense, I know that. But he built a kick arse offense that only needed a running game. I really wanted to see what he could do with an offseason focused just on defense.
    I agree with the failing on defense part, but the offense wasn't that spectacular. Especially with the level of Talent we have. With new coaches comes new philosophies. If you have watched any Patriots games which I suspect that you haven't, you would realize there offense was VERY efficient. Judging by what you just said, I would predict that you are coaching the broncos this year. Whats that? you aren't? Thank God.

    Now we have McD, and I really want to see what he can do focusing on just the defense. But if he tears that offense apart because he wants his own and it doesn't perform, get him the hell out of Denver. Their is no reason to be mucking up the offense.
    Who is McD? McDonalds? McDoogle? I believe you should clarify so the lesser intelligent people can understand. How is he "mucking" up the offense?

    But then again we have to realize that we have no idea how this deal went down. What McD did, maybe he could have got Cassel and turned it down. Who knows. But I don't understand how you know just what his approach is. I sure don't, as he has done nothing for sure so far that shows me just what kind of coach he is.

    But I'm willing to give him a chance.:go:
    The answer lies within this paragraph/extra sentance. YOU have to realize what is going on. I already know because I am an intelligent football fan/student of the game. What he has done in New England, if you don't remember, is install an offense that would lead to a 16-0 season. Now all he has to do is find a defense. He already has a leg up on Shanahan because he isn't copping out on his defensive investments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigplayshay84 View Post
    Um? I'm sorry but I can't understand this incoherent puke you just spewed. What I think you were trying to say is: "Him go stab Cutler in back by trade blocking him. Telling Cutler that he wants him, however it is going to be different"

    "incoherent psycho babble"
    Maybe if you possessed the intelligence to and ing to will. You'd be able to figure it out. But since you cannot here you go "Him willing to stab Cutler in the back by not even letting him know what's going on."

    Instead you're brain couldn't figure out the missing peaces and came up with this "Him go stab Cutler in back by trade blocking him. Telling Cutler that he wants him, however it is going to be different"

    Now that's what I call incoherent dribble.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigplayshay84 View Post
    Who is McD? McDonalds? McDoogle? I believe you should clarify so the lesser intelligent people can understand. How is he "mucking" up the offense?
    Pattern recognition and the ability to figure out meaning and fill in missing pieces despite Grammar errors is normally a strong point of the human brain. Guess not your strong point eh? Or maybe its a pathetic attack on me not wanting to spell out his whole name.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigplayshay84 View Post
    The answer lies within this paragraph/extra sentance. YOU have to realize what is going on. I already know because I am an intelligent football fan/student of the game. What he has done in New England, if you don't remember, is install an offense that would lead to a 16-0 season. Now all he has to do is find a defense. He already has a leg up on Shanahan because he isn't copping out on his defensive investments.
    LOL, he didn't install NOTHING, that brain went to KC. All he did was call plays. Yet you sit here and tell me how much of a " intelligent football fan/student of the game" you are. I think that is just one big sarcastic joke.
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