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  1. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by crash123go View Post
    Dooms pretty fast and just cause he hasn't played in space sideline to sideline doesn't mean he can't do it. And al Wilson wasnt a sideline to sideline MLB he was a thumped that mad you afraid to come up the middle
    Al Wilson was famous for having sideline to sideline speed. He had 4.5 speed and could cover RB's and TE's. His physicality and speed was pretty rare.

    Where do you get the idea Doom has speed? He's exposive off the snap, but he probably runs around a 4.8.

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    Just give up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor View Post
    Al Wilson was famous for having sideline to sideline speed. He had 4.5 speed and could cover RB's and TE's. His physicality and speed was pretty rare.

    Where do you get the idea Doom has speed? He's exposive off the snap, but he probably runs around a 4.8.
    At 260lbs doom ran a 4.7 40 so there's no reason why he couldn't run near a 4.5 at 245 and doom has something that's called game speed he may not look fast in practice or at the combine but he plays a lot faster

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor View Post
    Al Wilson was famous for having sideline to sideline speed. He had 4.5 speed and could cover RB's and TE's. His physicality and speed was pretty rare.

    Where do you get the idea Doom has speed? He's exposive off the snap, but he probably runs around a 4.8.
    DOOM ran a 4.75 at the combine.
    Ayers ran a 4.77 at his pro day.
    D.J. Williams 4.45 (Pro Day on indoor track) 4.54 (Outdoors)
    Wesley Woodyard 4.49

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    Fox's first pick in Carolina was Julius Peppers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crash123go View Post
    At 260lbs doom ran a 4.7 40 so there's no reason why he couldn't run near a 4.5 at 245 and doom has something that's called game speed he may not look fast in practice or at the combine but he plays a lot faster
    short area burst....yes dr. doom has that way faster in game. besides you dont ask backers or pass rushers to run full speed flat out to the target. speed is good dont get me wrong. but your quickness and technique will beat strength most times.

    but our scheme has blanked us alot on d for maybe a decade.

    not utilizing what we have and building around it, rather dreaming of what we want and pissing and moaning about it aint workin.

    sept for champ. he schemes into anything.

    the worst enemy of a good plan is the dream of a perfect plan.

    i say keep doom at olb hes had a torn pec so really how much weight do ya think he can put on to bulk up to go back to the line. only thing he can grab right now is gut weight. and im already take'n care of that so......

    imo he'll be fine at olb/pass rush specialist....lord knows we need some heat. and im sure he'll do just fine in his other duties on run support coverage once the d finally gets fixed.

    here that fox? im backin ya here..my favorite side of the ball needs to be fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by champbaileyteam View Post
    and ayers to the other side, which most likely means we will select Peterson with the 2nd. Anyone else skepticle about this considering hes best used as an outside LB in a 3-4. oh ya and Tebow will be great.

    http://rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/2...-defensive-end
    doesn't mean peterson will picked at two. sheesh. it doesn't mean anything. Being that this is our first rodeo with all participating parties, Fox, elway, allen, it's all speculation and assumptions. you can't tell anything so lets stop with this WILL happen cause no one knows what WILL happen.
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    i do, we have a jamal williams, dumerville, "ayers", and already the reluctance to bring back Champ. pick will be Peterson

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    Forty Yard Dash times ...

    ... only come into play on the football field in Kickoff coverage, a 9 route from the + 40 or more or Punt coverage (bullets only).

    They would be more relevant if they were run on a turf field in full gear right next to someone.
    Last edited by samparnell; 02-14-2011 at 12:43 PM.
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    ya i love COX and young CB we have too , but his off-field issues make Rosa Parks look like RuPaul. AND BRING BACK CHAMP, NO HUMAN HAS SEEN ANYONE COVER ANYTHING LIKE THIS SINCE GEORGE BUSH
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    dooms probably gonna be gone

    Doomsday a pass rushing OLB for a 3-4 defense that's all he is. If we go to the 4-3 he can't and won't survive as a defensive end he is just too undersized to hold up in run support. So I say we should try and trade him to say the jets who really need help at OLB and we get there 1st and 3rd round picks and try to acquire Vernon gohlston who is playing DE for them but doesn't really fit there scheme anymore that way we have more depth at end. Then if we could get rogers and draft fairley with ayers as a DE and our linebackers could be woodyard mays and DJ then we have made a pretty decent transition to the 4-3

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    this thread is way off base imo

    to elaborate:
    -doom has been productive as a 4-3 DE
    -no other team is going to want to take on doom's massive new contract
    -vernon gohlston is a huge step down from dumervil, no matter how you look at it
    -woodyard, mays and DJ is a terrible LB corps for the 4-3. woodyard and DJ are both WLBs and mays is too slow to play 4-3 MLB
    Last edited by lolcopter; 02-14-2011 at 03:12 PM.

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    Unless we got a Cutler type deal, i doubt we move Doom. And Fox said he's glad to have Dumervil back who was greatly missed last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crash123go View Post
    Doomsday a pass rushing OLB for a 3-4 defense that's all he is. If we go to the 4-3 he can't and won't survive as a defensive end he is just too undersized to hold up in run support. So I say we should try and trade him to say the jets who really need help at OLB and we get there 1st and 3rd round picks and try to acquire Vernon gohlston who is playing DE for them but doesn't really fit there scheme anymore that way we have more depth at end. Then if we could get rogers and draft fairley with ayers as a DE and our linebackers could be woodyard mays and DJ then we have made a pretty decent transition to the 4-3

    Well, other than the fact that Doom played 4-3 DE for 3 years, one of those years he got 12 sacks, I think you're kind of out to lunch.

    YOU DON'T MAKE A TEAM BETTER BY TRADING AWAY ITS TALENT! Did we learn nothing from the McDaniels era?

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    Ya and all three of those years he was on the line we had one of the smallest defenses and we were even worse then we were last year in stopping the run. Does no one remember that we couldn't stop no one from running the ball them last years with shannahan

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