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    Quote Originally Posted by Den615 View Post
    My radical theory is that Jax knows everything about Gemma and Juice and is just using them as his pawns for a bigger and more elaborate story arc.
    Please explain?

    I can't fathom in what way he could possibly know any of this. He doesn't even know she was helping Juice.

    I also can't fathom him not absolutely losing it on either of them over Tara.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverBlood View Post
    Please explain?

    I can't fathom in what way he could possibly know any of this. He doesn't even know she was helping Juice.

    I also can't fathom him not absolutely losing it on either of them over Tara.
    Like I said, it is a radical theory with a lot of blanks to fill in, but I would not put it beyond Sutter to make it happen. Maybe it is just wishful thinking, but Jax has been one step ahead of his rivals for the vast majority of the series and it seems too bad to have such a smart character be so easily duped by one person's lie.

    Definitely a long shot, but maybe Gemma came clean to Jax during or after his short stint and prison. Maybe she is totally dead to him and he is just using her in some grander scheme (other motives against the triads perhaps?). Especially with the alliances he has made (AB, one niners, Mayans and talk of patching over the GB's) in his plan to take down Marks. Maybe now the only way he sees he can truly protect his family is to tie up all of those loose ends and come out on top.

    Some seriously out of the box thinking and admittedly very unlikely. Just fun to speculate on where the series will end.

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    Would be a similar reveal to the season three finale with it appearing Jax was snitching all season long to Stahl, but it ultimately being all part of the club's plan.
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    Feel like the previews are leading to Juice being reaccepted into the club and Jax finding out about Gemma.

    Seems to "perfect" if that happens...

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    Wow!!! What an episode.

    Juice has a way to semi earn forgiveness. Or he dies.

    But as I said a few weeks ago. Jax isn't as prepared for this war as he thinks he is. And I can't believe it cost Munson his life.

    And Gemma's paranoia is going to be her undoing. Only a matter of time until Able spills the beans to Jax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverBlood View Post
    Wow!!! What an episode.

    Juice has a way to semi earn forgiveness. Or he dies.

    But as I said a few weeks ago. Jax isn't as prepared for this war as he thinks he is. And I can't believe it cost Munson his life.

    And Gemma's paranoia is going to be her undoing. Only a matter of time until Able spills the beans to Jax.
    Watch the preview for this week. Bobby isn't dead just yet.

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    it is going to be a huge blow to the club no matter what......they are taking one step forward but two back every week
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    Quote Originally Posted by Den615 View Post
    Watch the preview for this week. Bobby isn't dead just yet.
    I don't watch previews. I don't want to know anything before I see the episode.

    But you are right they didn't show him dead. But it will probably still happen.

    Jax's decisions are going to cost a lot of club members their lives by seasons end.

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    Another fantastic episode.

    Looks like I was right that Jax's mistakes cost Munson his life. Confirmed by another mistake last night. In past seasons Jax would be the one with some sort of side plan for a meet up to get the upper hand. But this season he has been a step behind August Marx every step of the way. Both meet ups went terribly wrong for Jax.

    And ratting August out to the cops? Since when is the club a bunch of snitches? Who cares that August is temporarily in jail. Your man is dead because of this scheme Jax. August is still alive and probably won't be in jail long. And now we don't get to see Bobby get revenge on the body guard.

    Juice is probably toast in prison now that Stahl and Unser figured out the plan. It's only a matter of time till they track this all back to Gemma. I think in the back of his mind Unser had to have already thought it was possible. He knows Gemma left high from her house that day and took the keys from him. I think he has just been in denial all this time. Also Gemma's paranoia will continue to expose her. Jax already thought it was suspicious the way she was acting after the Bobby news. But he ignored it. But now more strange behavior in front of Able. Although she didn't say anything that would lead Able to believe she was crooked again.

    Only four episodes left!! This show is going to go out with a bang.

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    I think the club is done. I am going with the guess that they get taken out by their own for killing a club president. That or max takes the same ride his dad did.....

    Not enough time left for it to turn around for them. It gets worse every week. Too bad. After so many years of watching the show you want it to work out for them....but it won't.
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    Oh my god!!! Finally!!! Thank you Able!!!!

    I thought Jax spilling the beans to Able was going to ruin everything. But it worked out perfectly!!!


    That opening scene was so strange showing everyone getting a piece. Tiggs finally did it with the Tranny. Didn't care to see their whole love slop fest halfway through though. And Juice getting it from Marylin Manson!! And then when Jax found out he sent him a petroleum gift lol!!!

    Anyways I think the club may have ended the war finally and will survive after all. Unless Marx gets out of jail.

    But after tonight's reveal I think the final three episodes are going to finally turn to focusing on Gemma.

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    I've enjoyed the season so far, but that last episode was vintage Sons of Anarchy. The part with the AB helping to get revenge on Moses was Sutter at his best. Still a lot of lose ends to tie up with Marx and Lin so the story can't totally shift to Gemma just yet. I doubt it all ends happily ever after for Samcro, but it was great to see them finally get a win this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Den615 View Post
    I've enjoyed the season so far, but that last episode was vintage Sons of Anarchy. The part with the AB helping to get revenge on Moses was Sutter at his best. Still a lot of lose ends to tie up with Marx and Lin so the story can't totally shift to Gemma just yet. I doubt it all ends happily ever after for Samcro, but it was great to see them finally get a win this season.
    That's exactly why I feel they don't have to tie up lose ends to move on to wrapping up the Gemma story.

    When he finds out what Able told him is true he no longer has a need to take out Lin. Other than to just avoid retaliation from them sending him to prison. I'm also not so sure he needs to do anything more with Marx either. Marx is in prison. Half his crew is dead. The only reason he would have to kill Marx is for what they did to Bobby. But again I'm not so sure those are things that have to be handled on the show.

    I feel good closure with them just being in prison. And it makes Juices situation funnier that he may just get left there to rot as Mansons boy toy when Jax realizes Lin was innocent.

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    I can maybe see Lin fading into the background, but Marx will be a key player in the final three episodes I believe. They mentioned in this episode that he would soon be out of prison on bail. Now that he knows the one-niners are with the MC and that Samcro took out his top squad there is no way he goes out quietly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Den615 View Post
    I can maybe see Lin fading into the background, but Marx will be a key player in the final three episodes I believe. They mentioned in this episode that he would soon be out of prison on bail. Now that he knows the one-niners are with the MC and that Samcro took out his top squad there is no way he goes out quietly.
    Right but the reason I think the amount of showtime effort needed is minimal is because his crew is depleted. The niners are completely on Jax side now and his best crew just got shot up.

    Whatever Marx has left to throw at the club will not be enough to cause much harm. Don't forget the Mayans are also backing Jax on this.

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    It looks like Albel might be the one to take the crew down harder than Marx. I saw a million shoot me up ending for SAMCRO but this one was a surprise. Three episodes left to see where that revelation goes.

    I am still in the mindset that it will be SAMCRO that take down Jax et al for killing another presedent without the Mayhem vote.

    I am going to miss this show. I like it better than breaking bad.

    And the current Juice story line.................*shudders* no comment.
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