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    Either him or Dawson I would be happy with. I have been wanting us to get our next MLB for years. Either one of those 2nd be very happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by crash123go View Post
    Reach for potential? Most credible sources have Odighizuwa as a first round talent. A lot of smart people have him as one of the best edge players in this draft. You must never have watched him.
    That's true. doesn't make them right though I told you the same thing about Sly too. So far, I have been right about as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crash123go View Post
    Reach for potential? Most credible sources have Odighizuwa as a first round talent. A lot of smart people have him as one of the best edge players in this draft. You must never have watched him.
    I wouldn't go as far as saying one of the best. That would put him in the group of Fowler, Gregory, and Beasley. I don't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by causticon View Post
    I guarantee they will draft a pass rusher before a RB.
    the only way I can agree with this is if we think the player available can/ could replace Ware in the future or replace or act as a backup for Miller. So unless a pass-rusher is taken in round 1 I see replacing either of those two players as a rather tall order. I also think that we would be better suited to take a RB who has a great size/speed blend. I see that as a need for us. Hillman (our current #4 IMO - does not really have either)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 58 broncomaniac View Post
    I would be happy with this draft especially the first 5 picks.
    I am really not a fan of drafting a FB. I see it as a far better option to look at a / player who can double as another position when needed AKA. A TE doubling as a FB or a bigger Rb doubling as a FB. I feel this type of roster allows for us to have a more flexible playbook.

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    Post Broncos 7 Round Mock

    My first attempt at it this year, here goes!

    Round 1 (Pick 28): Jordan Phillips - NT Oklahoma

    Why? Great burst for a big fella, and absolutely wrecked opposing defensive lines at times his Redshirt Sophomore (this last) year. Injuries prevented him from playing more in his college career, which is a worry... but I feel in this case Phillips has tremendous enough upside to warrant taking the risk.

    Honorable Mention: Eric Kendricks LB UCLA

    Round 2 (Pick 59): Stéphone Anthony LB Clemson

    Why? Big linebacker with versatility. Can play inside or out, and is a good overall backer. I believe this guy is a playmaker, and that is something this defense desperately needs. He can also develop into a guy that can play all 3 downs at the NFL level. I think he's a Pro Bowler, and quick.

    Honorable Mention: Cedric Ogbuehi OT TAMU, Tre Jackson G FSU, T.J. Clemmons OT Pittsburgh, Michael Bennett DT OSU, Brett Hundley QB UCLA

    Round 3 (Pick 92): Ali Marpet OL Hobart

    Why? Division III standout, and absolutely owned his competition in the Pre-Draft workouts. One of the fastest and most athletic linemen in the draft, he's a good fit for Kubiak's system. He plays up to his competition, which is a very important factor since he played at a small level.

    Honorable Mention: Paul Dawson LB TCU, Kwon Alexander OLB LSU, Hau'Oli Kikaha OLB Washington, Arie Kouandijo OG Alabama

    Round 4 (Pick 133): Gerod Holliman S Louisville

    Why? When's the last time Denver had a ballhawk at the safety position? Holliman filled in nicely for a first rounder in Calvin Pryor this last year, and topped off a good season with 14 interceptions that led the country. He's a little smaller, which hurts his stock. But pairing him with T.J. Ward potentially would provide a good 1-2 punch so-to-speak.

    Honorable Mention: Ellis McCarthy NT UCLA, Taiwan Jones ILB Michigan State, Max Garcia OG/C Florida (as long as he wasn't one of those guys that blocked a teammate, that was cray)

    Round 5 (Pick 143): Wes Saxton TE South Alabama

    Why? Losing Julius Thomas is big, and none of the guys we signed this offseason can be considered a long term replacement. Saxton has a large frame, and ran the fastest 40 time among all Tight Ends at the combine. Not to mention, Brandon Bridge was his QB! Inconsistency at that position along with an injury this last year held Saxton back.

    Honorable Mention: Lynden Trail DE Norfolk State, Mark Glowinski OG WVU, Ramik Wilson ILB UGA, David Parry DT Stanford


    Round 5 (Pick 164): Dezmin Lewis WR Central Arkansas

    Why? Big WR that showed up at the Senior Bowl against more highly touted prospects. Solid hands, and could stand to work on route running. WR isn't an immediate need, however this is a good project pick that could pay big dividends in the future.

    Honorable Mention: Chris Conley WR UGA, Jake Ryan LB Michigan, Corey Robinson RT South Carolina

    Round 6 (Pick 203): Tavaris Barnes DE Clemson

    Why? One of the more overlooked players on the extremely talented Clemson defense. Guy has tools that you can develop and he could potentially be a big time sleeper talent.

    Honorable Mention: Karlos Williams RB FSU

    Round 7 (Pick 250): Deshazor Everett CB TAMU

    Why? Secondary depth never hurts, but this guy is lucky to even be drafted. Not so sure Denver takes a chance on him, but he's got talent.

    Round 7 (Pick 251): Nick Boyle TE Delaware

    Why? Tight end that is more of a blocker than receiver, but Kubiak can find a use for him down in the red zone or situations an extra blocker is needed.

    Round 7 (Pick 252): Jermaine Whitehead S Auburn

    Why? At this point you are just looking for a guy to push talent in front of him to be better.

    I can already imagine that I'm going to get yelled at for not having enough "shiny" picks like receivers or running backs, but I feel like this setup, along with the honorable mentions that you can mix and match to find a reasonable outcome that would help this teams future immensely.

    NOTE: I'm not a big fan of this Quarterback class at all. My personal top three goes Winston, Mariota, Hundley. Outside of that I'm not impressed by anyone else, I'd rather pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshmack93 View Post
    Did a mock draft on Fan Speak and this is what I got. What do you guys think?

    R1: D.J. Humphries OT Florida
    R2: Denzel Perryman LB Miami
    R3: Ifo Ekpre-Olomu CB Oregon
    R4: Tevin Coleman RB Indiana
    R5: Gerod Holliman S Louisville
    R5: Xavier Williams DT Northern Iowa
    R6: Max Garcia C Florida
    R7: Ray Drew DE Georgia
    R7: Jon Feliciano G Miami
    R7: Chris Bonner QB Colorado State-Pueblo

    R1: D.J. Humphries OT Florida - good fit

    R2: Denzel Perryman LB Miami - This is my #1 ILB for us I see Perryman being similar to Shazier last draft to be frank though we will need to trade up to get him perhaps giving up our 4th?

    R3: Ifo Ekpre-Olomu CB Oregon - Big fan of this pick in this round don't be shocked if this guy go sooner as he was graded as a 1st before his injury and this is a relatively weak Cb class.

    R4: Tevin Coleman RB Indiana- If my comment about Perryman hold true then Coleman is not an option for us here. I do see this round being a good fit for a RB for us. either that or we package 2 picks this year and 1 next to get back into the 2nd to boost our roster with a better quality player

    R5: Gerod Holliman S Louisville- Average height and decent weight. If he is in the 5th a potential fit at FS.

    R5: Xavier Williams DT Northern Iowa- don't know enough to comment.

    R6: Max Garcia C Florida- good fit and I like him as a player. Not sure he makes it this long.

    R7: Ray Drew DE Georgia - Not a fan of selecting a DE even this late.

    R7: Jon Feliciano G Miami - don't know enough.

    R7: Chris Bonner QB Colorado State-Pueblo- I'd rather look at a TE who could sit on the PS and develop with this pick or use this for a different position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowdaBroncoFan View Post
    I wouldn't go as far as saying one of the best. That would put him in the group of Fowler, Gregory, and Beasley. I don't think so.
    Agreed. I think he has a long ways to go with pass rushing skills.

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    I like the first 5 pick but I think I could have done better with the rest.

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    Love it! Excellent Mock!

    I personally would rather go for Drummond or Amos ahead of Holliman at S, but that my personal preference.

    I love Jordan Phillips and I heard his medicals for his back are good to go.


    I also have some bad news for you and most of us. Dream has stated that one of his sources says we are really really high on QB Brett Hundley. If so, I can only see him lasting til the 3rd at the latest? I dont know. I havent looked at him much because I do not want to use a high pick on a QB this year. But..............His sources are always good. So that may throw our mocks off. Still, this is a happy dance mock for me and I CP you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by underrated29 View Post
    Love it! Excellent Mock!

    I personally would rather go for Drummond or Amos ahead of Holliman at S, but that my personal preference.

    I love Jordan Phillips and I heard his medicals for his back are good to go.


    I also have some bad news for you and most of us. Dream has stated that one of his sources says we are really really high on QB Brett Hundley. If so, I can only see him lasting til the 3rd at the latest? I dont know. I havent looked at him much because I do not want to use a high pick on a QB this year. But..............His sources are always good. So that may throw our mocks off. Still, this is a happy dance mock for me and I CP you!
    First let me congratulate the poster here for the work put in to the draft. Well done.

    Now onto the issue I have to with both poster and response. I firmly believe that we should address the Oline in a bigger way then this draft covers. I urge you to look no further than Dallas to see how nailing a few early round draft picks can completely shore up your Qb's protection. In particular with Manning this season protection will be key. On top of that, assuming the rumor-mill is at least potentially accurate, this is Manning's last season. So even when he is gone and our next, younger Qb steps in protection is never a bad thing.

    I like some of the depth picks in the secondary and I do think we go TE at some point. My preference is always to go after a speed guy at the position who shows a willingness to block. Virgil green was such a player when he came into the league. I also think that we have two other positions of need a combination speed/size RB to push and potentially beat out Hillman and a backup Mike/ Moe ILB. I personally do not feel we have the needed depth there, especially after this coming season is over.

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    Bronx - My 32 pick round one mock draft ! ! ! !

    No trades. This is how I would pick if I was the GM, not what I think they will do. There is no Mariota because I don't believe in him as a round one QB

    1 - Tampa Bay - Jameis Winston**, QB, Florida State

    They need a QB, He’s the best one available.

    2 - Tennessee - Vic Beasley – Clemson, LB/DE

    Need someone to help Morgan, who had a team high 6.5 sacks, Beasley is my top pass rusher and can play DE and LB. I am happy with Mettenburger.

    3 - Jacksonville - Dante Fowler Jr.*, DE, Florida

    A top pass rusher who can play the Leo position in Bradley’s D and boost the pass rush.

    4 - Oakland - Melvin Gordon*, RB, Wisconsin

    Someone to help Carr. I don’t rate any receivers this highly and feel a heavy dose of Gordon and Latavius Murray will help the offense have balance and take some pressure of Carr’s shoulders. I would grab a receiver in round 2 or 3 and possibly 4 as well.

    5 - Washington - Andrus Peat*, OT, Stanford

    No safety worth a pick this high, their OL desperately needs upgrading....Especially as they are going forward with RG3. I rate Peat as my top tackle and above Scherff as a prospect.

    6 - New York Jets - Shane Ray – Missouri, LB/DE

    They do need offensive help but I can’t turn down Ray, he could be a destructive LB behind that huge DL and offers the best value.

    7 - Chicago - Jaelen Strong*, WR, Arizona State

    Many will disagree with this but I have Strong as my number one receiver and the Bears need someone across from Jeffrey after losing Marshall.

    8 - Atlanta - Todd Gurley*, RB, Georgia

    They are desperate for a RB and get a good one here. They have some good COP one’s but no every down back.

    9 - New York Giants - Leonard Williams*, DT/DE, USC

    Can play DT and DE and gives an ageing DL some good young talent

    10 - St. Louis - Brandon Scherff, G, Iowa

    The OL is terrible and here is a day one starter to boost the interior

    11 - Minnesota - Jalen Collins*, CB, LSU

    They need a corner opposite Rhodes and Collins has exciting potential

    12 - Cleveland Browns - Amari Cooper*, WR, Alabama

    Their receiving corps is terrible and Gordon is suspended for the season. They run to the podium and take Cooper

    13 - New Orleans - Benardrick McKinney*, ILB/OLB, Mississippi State

    This might be a little high for McKinney but the Saints were awful against the run last season and the LB corps is weak. He is a day one starter at MLB or OLB and gives them some toughness in the middle of that D and is strong against the run

    14 - Miami - DeVante Parker, WR, Louisville

    They need a receiver after losing Wallace and Hartline, Parker is good value here

    15 - San Francisco - Eddie Goldman, NT, Florida State

    Plays with a nasty streak and can get into the backfield but mainly excels stopping the run, has a great motor. They have 2 OK players in Williams and Dorsey but this is a huge upgrade and starts to re-build that D

    16 - Houston - Stephone Anthony, ILB/OLB, Clemson

    Clowney is coming off a big injury, Reed has gone to Atlanta, Cushing is always injured. Anthony is a solid tackler and can rush the passer

    17 - San Diego - D.J. Humphries*, OT, Florida

    I expect Franklin and Fluker to play OG. Humphries can slot in at LT/RT day one or play LG if they leave Franklin at RT

    18 - Kansas City - Kevin White, WR, West Virginia

    They signed Maclin but badly need help at WR still, zero TD’s to all receivers last season. Smith needs help and a RZ target. I would also target Darren Waller in round 4/5 if I was them. A huge receiver with potential, would be a good RZ threat and help Charles regarding his run blocking strength

    19 - Cleveland - La'el Collins, G/OT, LSU

    Having got Amari Cooper earlier the Browns turn their attention to the OL. Collins is a plug and play starter at OT or OG

    20 - Philadelphia - Jake Fisher, OT, Oregon

    Who knows what the mad scientist will do. Me personally would take Jake Fisher who is perfect for this offense. A great athlete from Chip Kelly’s Oregon and can play OT or OG. I would love Denver to take him and the Eagles are the biggest threat to that

    21 - Cincinnati - Danny Shelton*, DT, Washington

    Good size and athlete, did well at the senior bowl. Is a little slow off the line at times but this is great value. I just couldn’t find anywhere higher in the draft for him to go. Pair him with Atkins and that will be a force.... Peko and Still give them good depth and rotation

    22 - Pittsburgh - Hau'Oli Kikaha – Washington, LB/DE

    Some may say this is high for him but I believe this would be a great pick up for the Steelers. A relentless high energy pass rusher with great character. With Harrison almost done and Jarvis Jones not working out so far Kikaha and Shazier are the future of this D and an awesome tandem

    23 - Detroit - T.J. Clemmings*, OT, Pittsburgh

    They badly need a RT upgrade. La’Adrian Waddle is currently the starter and he’s expected to start 2015 on the PUP list. Clemmings is raw and struggled with speed rushers at the senior bowl but is a good athlete and has great potential

    24 - Arizona - Eli Harold – Virginia, LB/DE

    They tried to land a pass rusher in FA and failed, so they take Harold. Coming off a very good season he can rush the passer and set the edge, uses his hands well and is a good athlete. Needs to add a little bulk

    25 - Carolina - Ereck Flowers*, OT, Miami

    The Panthers have confirmed that Michael Oher will play RT, they don’t have anyone opposite him. Flowers has long arms and good strength, he can play RT for a season or 2 then move over to LT

    26 - Baltimore - Jordan Phillips*, DT, Oklahoma

    They might consider RB as Forsett is now 30, but Gordon and Gurley have both gone. After losing Ngata I believe Phillips offers good value at a position of need and is a good athlete who can get into the backfield

    27 - Dallas - T.J. Yeldon*, RB, Alabama

    After losing Murray they have nothing at RB and can’t expect much from McFadden. Dallas need balance or they fall apart and Yeldon is a natural runner with a good build who can put up yards behind that OL and take the pressure off Romo

    28 - Denver - Cameron Erving - Florida State, C

    After seeing all the OT’s go we take a great interior prospect who can play OG or C. Erving has good arm length and quickness, although is a little bit raw

    29 - Indianapolis - Damarious Randall - Arizona State

    My top Safety is Randall. The Colts only have 34 year old Mike Adams. This fills a need

    30 - Green Bay - Eric Kendricks, ILB/OLB, UCLA

    Probably their biggest need with only Sam Barrington a capable starter. Kendricks can play ILB or OLB and is a very good tackler, is smart and good in coverage.... needs to add a little bulk

    31 - New Orleans - Malcom Brown*, DT, Texas

    They took McKinney earlier, there is a case for Mauldin but I would add a top DL player to pair with the OK Bunkley and continue building a poor defense and make it tougher and harder to run against

    32 - New England - Trae Waynes, CB*, Michigan State

    After losing Revis and Browner they are a little thin at corner and Waynes is good value. Excels in man coverage but footwork and technique needs cleaning up a little


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    Quote Originally Posted by underrated29 View Post
    Love it! Excellent Mock!

    I personally would rather go for Drummond or Amos ahead of Holliman at S, but that my personal preference.

    I love Jordan Phillips and I heard his medicals for his back are good to go.


    I also have some bad news for you and most of us. Dream has stated that one of his sources says we are really really high on QB Brett Hundley. If so, I can only see him lasting til the 3rd at the latest? I dont know. I havent looked at him much because I do not want to use a high pick on a QB this year. But..............His sources are always good. So that may throw our mocks off. Still, this is a happy dance mock for me and I CP you!
    Like I said, I don't think I'd throw a fit over drafting Hundley. I like the tools he can provide, he just seems raw. So we will see. Thanks, I appreciate the kind words! There's just something about Holliman that stands out, and not just his "highlight reels". He has a kind of it factor about him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_C View Post
    First let me congratulate the poster here for the work put in to the draft. Well done.

    Now onto the issue I have to with both poster and response. I firmly believe that we should address the Oline in a bigger way then this draft covers. I urge you to look no further than Dallas to see how nailing a few early round draft picks can completely shore up your Qb's protection. In particular with Manning this season protection will be key. On top of that, assuming the rumor-mill is at least potentially accurate, this is Manning's last season. So even when he is gone and our next, younger Qb steps in protection is never a bad thing.

    I like some of the depth picks in the secondary and I do think we go TE at some point. My preference is always to go after a speed guy at the position who shows a willingness to block. Virgil green was such a player when he came into the league. I also think that we have two other positions of need a combination speed/size RB to push and potentially beat out Hillman and a backup Mike/ Moe ILB. I personally do not feel we have the needed depth there, especially after this coming season is over.
    'Preciate it! A well thought out response deserves one in kind so I'll address your issues and maybe we can come to an understanding of sorts on why I did things (I find this incredibly fun)

    I understand what Dallas did on the offensive line, however they had more ideal circumstances to do so. Zack Martin was drafted 16th, and Tyron Smith was drafted 9th. It is kind of funny, however that Travis Frederick was considered a reach at 31, however they definitely proved us wrong. Unfortunately for us, consistently making the playoffs but falling short puts us in an area where getting an impact player is somewhat difficult in the late 20's. Last year Ju'wan James was drafted 19 and turned out to be solid, and the next offensive line pick Xavier Sua'Filo to Houston at 33. Kind of the same thing in 2013, where Pugh was drafted at 19 and Frederick went at 31. In 2012 we had Zeitler, Decastro, and Reiff go in the 20's! In fact, the last time we saw an offensive lineman drafted in the area we typically draft was in 2011 when Anthony Costanzo went 22 and James Carpenter went 25.

    I realize this theme isn't a fact when it comes to the draft, and say Denver were to reach at 29 on the level of Frederick (Who I believe was considered an early third rounder), the odds of getting a huge return are moderate. What I want to see is Kubiak finding five guys that play well as a unit. The reason I did my mock the way I did was if someone didn't like a particular pick, you can always mix and match. I just am not sure what level of value some of these linemen have right now. Take Clemmons for example, one week he's considered a Top 12 pick and now he might be available in our second pick range. As for Ali Marpet, I think we would be foolish to pass on a guy like him. His skill set fits Kubes system just right, and he plays with a chip on his shoulder. Not to mention, you could play Montgomery at Center this year, have Marpet get experience at Guard this year, and perhaps move him inside next season! I like the idea of grooming a Center at guard, instead of throwing him right into the fire having to deal with the most demanding QB in the game.

    I honestly feel like this team lacks playmakers on the defensive side of the ball at the non-glamour positions. Phillips would add an impact up the middle that may be on the level of a Marcell Dareus, but can be gotten around our pick! Stephone Anthony is a stud, and I believe he (along with less heralded players on that defense like Tavaris Barnes) made Vic Beasley look even better. Anthony would provide a day one starter at either of the ILB positions for us, and he's what I like to call a "Thumper", except he plays well enough in coverage to hold his own. We haven't seen a true playmaker at that position in too long, and I believe pairing his skill set with the likes of a Trevathan on a situational basis could create nightmares for offensive coordinators.

    When it comes to QB, I do like Hundley. I'd like to see him in Kubiak's offense after a year of sitting beyond Peyton, as long as Peyton is willing to help Hundley catch up on the more "professional" aspects of playing football such as drawing defenders with his eyes, ball fakes, and making checks at the line. I know it's not an official source, but I was impressed with him at Gruden's QB camp, even though it is an ESPN side show. I would like to also mention that if the Raiders are as dumb as some of the talking heads think, and draft a QB in the first round (I don't think they're that dumb, I think they're past that), we should then immediately make a play for Derek Carr. He was my favorite QB last class and this situation is perfect for him.

    I feel like the TE's I have going to us are a good pairing and compliment each other perfectly. I'd like to see us draft a guy like that at tight end as you described, but as I scoured over this class I never really became enamored with any of them. Jesse James out of Penn State stood out, but I just don't truly know.

    I think the team is committed to giving Montee Ball one more year (much to my dismay), and him pairing with CJ Anderson could be pretty potent behind a Kubiak offensive line. I think Hillman is a role player and nothing more, so as a 3rd RB I think he could be effective. It all relies on being healthy. Personally I'd rather see Juwan Thompson get the nod over Ball, and keep Hillman. But hey. That's just me. Let me know what you think!

    Edit: Also, One thing that I really tried focusing on with this draft is finding impact guys. We need more on this team, and I think one at each level of the defense would do this team a lot of good.
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    Shane Ray is not a first round talent. Can't see a talent evaluator GM wasting a high 1st on him.

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