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    Quote Originally Posted by crash123go View Post
    Because Manning isn't the future, your wasting an entire year of every one of our franchise players careers, and if we need our offense to score with a team like the packers we won't be able to if we play like on Sunday.
    Well they haven't thought enough of Osweiler to extend him beyond this year yet, so maybe he isn't the future either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo0730 View Post
    Yet he only talked him down to $14 million...?
    He took 6 million off his salary, if he didn't give any from the 20+ he was at he would've been cut. Again, that's just what reporters and insiders have said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bronco51 View Post
    well they haven't thought enough of osweiler to extend him beyond this year yet, so maybe he isn't the future either.
    ding ding ding!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronco51 View Post
    Well they haven't thought enough of Osweiler to extend him beyond this year yet, so maybe he isn't the future either.
    How many contracts has Elway given out during the season in 5 years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crash123go View Post
    I wouldn't think so, not a lot of factual backing there.
    Other than the fact they haven't extended him yet. If he is so much more capable than Manning, why wouldn't they make sure he doesn't walk after the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronco51 View Post
    Other than the fact they haven't extended him yet. If he is so much more capable then Manning, why wouldn't they make sure he doesn't walk after the season.
    Again, see above comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crash123go View Post
    How many contracts has Elway given out during the season in 5 years?
    The problem is that Brock is an unrestricted free agent. And they're not going to franchise a back up quarterback with no in-game experience especially since they have to work out a new deal with Von Miller.

    So if you were going to get a deal done, this past offseason seemed like the time to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by broncolassiter View Post
    It is way to early to be making any kind of judgement. Let's get through the first quarter of the season and see how the O-line is coming along. We have to agree that the O-line struggles are what caused Manning's struggles.
    The OL allowed pressure on 30% of the pass plays. That is about league average. Not great, and it should improve, but Manning was bad regardless of having average protection. He shouldn't need flawless protection to have a performance better than terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crash123go View Post
    Again, see above comment.
    He had all of the summer to do so. Or last summer. Or any other time to get it done if he felt it was worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo0730 View Post
    The problem is that Brock is an unrestricted free agent. And they're not going to franchise a back up quarterback with no in-game experience especially since they have to work out a new deal with Von Miller.

    So if you were going to get a deal done, this past offseason seemed like the time to do it.
    Unless Elway is expecting to see Osweiler during the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crash123go View Post
    Unless Elway is expecting to see Osweiler during the season.
    And I'm telling you, Elway will not make that decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronco51 View Post
    He had all of the summer to do so. Or last summer. Or any other time to get it done if he felt it was worth it.
    Same with DT, Clady, Prater, and Von Miller. There is A LOT of time to sign Brock to an extension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo0730 View Post
    He didn't ask Manning to take a heavily significant pay cut, however, and the pay cut is only for THIS season.

    And the bottom line is, if Elway were truly THAT concerned or THAT ready to move on from Manning, he simply would have cut him and moved on.
    He asked manning to take a 10 million dollar pay cut. That's pretty significant, regardless of the number they actually settled on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crash123go View Post
    You note that Manning would've fallen down taking a 4 yard loss and Brock tried to escape and took an 11 yard loss like its the wrong play? You can also note from preseason last year, during the Seattle game, Osweiler had 2 defenders in his face, 1 unblocked and he threw into the hit for a 25 yard game winning TD.
    I was talking about this year, Manning looked good last year in pre-season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crash123go View Post
    Unless Elway is expecting to see Osweiler during the season.
    Then why keep Manning at 14 million? That's a pretty expensive security blanket if you're sure Os is the guy.

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