View Poll Results: Who is your favorite Broncos head coach?

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  • Gary Kubiak

    16 22.86%
  • John Fox

    1 1.43%
  • Josh McIdiot

    3 4.29%
  • Mike Shanahan

    39 55.71%
  • Wade Phillips

    1 1.43%
  • Dan Reeves

    3 4.29%
  • Red Miller

    3 4.29%
  • John Ralston

    2 2.86%
  • Lou Saban

    0 0%
  • other

    2 2.86%
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  1. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by VenomousDB View Post
    What? McDaniels DID NOT clean up any mess. He came in and blew the roster up when we already had the talent to compete. He created the biggest mess in Broncos history and thank goodness Bowlen is our owner and corrected that mistake quickly.
    OK one of those people that would have loved a few more years of Bob Slowik defense and Cuddles to BMarsh in tripple coverage offense. Yes, it should be obvious that the Cutler and BMarsh show has been so succesful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoFanDK View Post
    OK one of those people that would have loved a few more years of Bob Slowik defense and Cuddles to BMarsh in tripple coverage offense. Yes, it should be obvious that the Cutler and BMarsh show has been so succesful.
    Pointing out some other mess doesn't make McCoverup a non mess. But then, you apparently consider a 3-9 record in the second year a success. That makes as much sense as saying War is Peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VenomousDB View Post
    What? McDaniels DID NOT clean up any mess. He came in and blew the roster up when we already had the talent to compete. He created the biggest mess in Broncos history and thank goodness Bowlen is our owner and corrected that mistake quickly.

    I wouldn't be surprised if McDaniels was sent in by hoodie to make the Broncos some kind of farm system for their team. McDaniels discovers talent and then ships em off to the cheaters...luckily he wasn't with us long enough to find if that was true. (Just joking, kinda)
    I think the roster needed to be blown up, not necessarily in the way he did it but he did net us Von Miller

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoFanDK View Post
    OK one of those people that would have loved a few more years of Bob Slowik defense and Cuddles to BMarsh in tripple coverage offense. Yes, it should be obvious that the Cutler and BMarsh show has been so succesful.
    Replacing something bad with something that turns out to be worse is a definition of improvement that I am not familiar with.

    The end of Shanny's era was depressing, to say the least, especially after his 2 SBs and general earlier success. McDaniels was a dumpster fire of a coach and did nothing to even keep the status quo of Shanny's late and great mediocrity. No, when we reached the bottom of the barrel and thought it couldn't get any worse, McD proved if you pick up that barrel and start digging, it can always get worse.
    Last edited by Rastic; 08-24-2016 at 03:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoFanDK View Post
    OK one of those people that would have loved a few more years of Bob Slowik defense and Cuddles to BMarsh in tripple coverage offense. Yes, it should be obvious that the Cutler and BMarsh show has been so succesful.
    Or maybe McDaniels went about everything in literally the worst way possible?
    Did I say that change wasn't needed?

    We had a good talented offensive core (yes that would include cutler and Marshall) that could have been successful with a few tweaks. Our offense was pretty much set at the time. Our defense was the unit that needed to be blown up and it wasn't. McDaniels was, is, and will always be a loser/sore spot to this franchise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rastic View Post
    Replacing something bad with something that turns out to be worse is a definition of improvement that I am not familiar with.

    The end of Shanny's era was depressing, to say the least, especially after his 2 SBs and general earlier success. McDaniels was a dumpster fire of a coach and did nothing to even keep the status quo of Shanny's late and great mediocrity. No, when we reached the bottom of the barrel and thought it couldn't get any worse, McD proved if you pick up that barrel and start digging, it can always get worse.
    Things always get worse before they get better. That's especially true in the NFL particularly when you're going with a new coach who has a completely different style. He wanted to go from zone to power and 4-3 to 3-4, that isn't possible to do in a year or two. The 6-0 start hurt him in the long run because it set an unrealistic expectation for the team. Rebuilding and winning aren't usually synonymous and he was trying to rebuild the team the way he wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beastlyskronk View Post
    I think the roster needed to be blown up, not necessarily in the way he did it but he did net us Von Miller
    True McDaniels led us to getting the #2 pick.

    I shudder to think what would've happened if McDaniels had stayed on long enough to make the pick himself. Maybe would've been Mark Ingram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTM View Post
    True McDaniels led us to getting the #2 pick.

    I shudder to think what would've happened if McDaniels had stayed on long enough to make the pick himself. Maybe would've been Mark Ingram.
    Right. He took Knowshon Moreno and Robert Ayers in 2009 and Demaryius Thomas and Tim Tebow in 2010. There were many on this message board who wanted Marcel Dareus with #4 in 2011. One guy threw such a fit after Elway took Von Miller that he was permanently banned. Mark Ingram did go in the first round that year at #28 to the Saints. Of the nineteen guys McDaniels drafted, only DT is left. David Bruton was the other and he just left in free agency.
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    Shanahan because he built a team around Elway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samparnell View Post
    Right. He took Knowshon Moreno and Robert Ayers in 2009 and Demaryius Thomas and Tim Tebow in 2010. There were many on this message board who wanted Marcel Dareus with #4 in 2011. One guy threw such a fit after Elway took Von Miller that he was permanently banned. Mark Ingram did go in the first round that year at #28 to the Saints. Of the nineteen guys McDaniels drafted, only DT is left. David Bruton was the other and he just left in free agency.
    Wow. And that's how one guy defines cleaning up a mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beastlyskronk View Post
    Rebuilding and winning aren't usually synonymous and he was trying to rebuild the team the way he wanted.
    So how many years would you have given him? For reference, Chuck Noll went from 1-13 in 1969 to 11-3 and the playoffs in '72. Don Shula took Miami from 3-10-1 the previous year to 10-4 his first year, and was in the Super Bowl the following year. Belichick went from 5-11 his first year to 11-5 his second. Two years after McWunderkind got his well deserved boot after going 3-9, Denver was 13-3. By any rational standard, he doesn't measure up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertR View Post
    So how many years would you have given him? For reference, Chuck Noll went from 1-13 in 1969 to 11-3 and the playoffs in '72. Don Shula took Miami from 3-10-1 the previous year to 10-4 his first year, and was in the Super Bowl the following year. Belichick went from 5-11 his first year to 11-5 his second. Two years after McWunderkind got his well deserved boot after going 3-9, Denver was 13-3. By any rational standard, he doesn't measure up.
    It's been six years since McDaniels* was fired in Denver. IDK if he will be hired as a HC again. Belichick's* assistants don't have a great record as NFL head coaches. Belichick* himself is In Bill Parcells' coaching tree which has been more successful.
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    Not shanahan fan at all .

    I realize he took us to and won 2 Lombardi's .but he did it with a loaded team most of which was here when he got here.

    the most significant players he brought in was neal smith, the spiter, Tony Jones and got real lucky with TD,(a guy that was going to quit the team and pay for a ticket out of his own pocket to fly home from Tokyo until he found out how much it was.)

    The real credit for those Lombardi's should go to Kubes, Gibbs and our DC (can't remember his name at this minute).

    Yes he put the coaches together, but once those coaches (except Kubes) left, along with most of the HOF level players retired he had few answers to fill those spots.

    IMO he got lucky early with the talent, the Scheme that few if any teams played at the time. But he soon became the LITTLE GENERAL and made huge mistakes with his drafting over the final years. Spent way to much money bringing in Vets that had little if anymore gas in their tanks. All because he kept blowing his top draft picks..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garfield View Post
    Not shanahan fan at all .

    I realize he took us to and won 2 Lombardi's .but he did it with a loaded team most of which was here when he got here.

    the most significant players he brought in was neal smith, the spiter, Tony Jones and got real lucky with TD,(a guy that was going to quit the team and pay for a ticket out of his own pocket to fly home from Tokyo until he found out how much it was.)

    The real credit for those Lombardi's should go to Kubes, Gibbs and our DC (can't remember his name at this minute).

    Yes he put the coaches together, but once those coaches (except Kubes) left, along with most of the HOF level players retired he had few answers to fill those spots.

    IMO he got lucky early with the talent, the Scheme that few if any teams played at the time. But he soon became the LITTLE GENERAL and made huge mistakes with his drafting over the final years. Spent way to much money bringing in Vets that had little if anymore gas in their tanks. All because he kept blowing his top draft picks..
    DC Greg Robinson was fired after the 2000 season.
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    I actually liked McDaniels. I think the biggest problem for him was that he was given waaaaaaay too much power for an unproven head coach. I think if he had elway calling the shots he would have had more success.

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