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  1. #61
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    Quality over quantity. Alot of people favor having a ton of picks but what's the point if none of those picks ever make an impact? Would you trade your entire 2016 draft for bosa? Would you trade your entire 2014 for Mack? Some people would say they rather have the picks but what's the point when you walk away with zero impact players? We are talking 5 players of potential marginal/minimal impact and special teams players or 1 potential all pro player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawinkerpoppin View Post
    Quality over quantity. Alot of people favor having a ton of picks but what's the point if none of those picks ever make an impact? Would you trade your entire 2016 draft for bosa? Would you trade your entire 2014 for Mack? Some people would say they rather have the picks but what's the point when you walk away with zero impact players? We are talking 5 players of potential marginal/minimal impact and special teams players or 1 potential all pro player.
    Interesting question. Problem is you are looking at it as all or nothing in landing that All-Pro. What if he isn't?

    And it discounts the filling out a roster to have a solid team with depth. Some of those multiple picks are your impact players a couple years down the line, are quality depth after your All-Pro gets injured or the STs specialists. They fill the pipeline at positions throughout the roster. If not for those multiple picks (hopefully wisely chosen!) the team needs to be filled out with UDFAs or vet minimums?

    Risk either way. But there is a reason that GMs rarely make those all-in draft moves for one player. The big picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FR Tim View Post
    Interesting question. Problem is you are looking at it as all or nothing in landing that All-Pro. What if he isn't?

    And it discounts the filling out a roster to have a solid team with depth. Some of those multiple picks are your impact players a couple years down the line, are quality depth after your All-Pro gets injured or the STs specialists. They fill the pipeline at positions throughout the roster. If not for those multiple picks (hopefully wisely chosen!) the team needs to be filled out with UDFAs or vet minimums?

    Risk either way. But there is a reason that GMs rarely make those all-in draft moves for one player. The big picture.
    I know nothing is guaranteed and its risk all around. But I'm basing it really on our past history of drafting. 4 drafts and our only pro bowl player has been a 6th round pick so far. To me it would make moe sense to trade up in the top 10 or top 5 where we have a much higher chance of landing an impact player instead of the run of the mill roster filler.

    And honestly some of our best contributions as far as rotational players come from late round picks udfas and vet minimum contracts.

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    IMHO, SB winning teams usually are comprised of solid players up and down the roster (no glaring deficiencies) plus 1-2 game changers. We got away with zero on offense, but Von + a stacked defense. The 97-98 team had Elway, Davis, Zimm, and Sharpe on top of a very solid remainder of the oline. NE's formula has been solid offense and defense + Brady for years.

    When I look at our team, we have good WR's in Sanders and DT (even acknowledging DT's problems the last couple seasons), below average slot/3rd receiver, TE, and oline, average everything else. Zero game changers on offense. Defense still has Von plus some very good supporting players, but has dropped below average on the dline besides Wolfe and at LB besides Von and maybe Ray. Secondary has borderline game changers in Talib and Harris, and the play of Stewart has been very good.

    The defense fits the formula, but dline and LB need shoring up to average. Offense needs talent. If I'm looking at the big picture, I go offensive weapon in the first and try to get someone who can tilt games. If not available, consider the same at DL or LB. That still leaves shoring up the oline and hoping the QB's progress. The LT's in this year's draft don't look like they will be dominant players.

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    Cam Robinson OL would be my pick.

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    Personally, I think we should try to move up a couple spots and draft Austin Rehkow. Maybe trade a couple late round picks and see if we can get up to 15-16?
    Mark my words, Trevor Siemian will be much improved after this offseason and will remain the Broncos QB1 in 2017. - Dec '16

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawinkerpoppin View Post
    Quality over quantity. Alot of people favor having a ton of picks but what's the point if none of those picks ever make an impact? Would you trade your entire 2016 draft for bosa? Would you trade your entire 2014 for Mack? Some people would say they rather have the picks but what's the point when you walk away with zero impact players? We are talking 5 players of potential marginal/minimal impact and special teams players or 1 potential all pro player.
    You have no idea the players Denver will pick this year in a fairly deep draft. Just because you think Denver has had some sub-par drafts recently doesn't mean they should bet the farm on one guy. Besides, you're incorrect that our last few drafts haven't produced impact players. 2014 gave us Roby and Paradis. 2015 gave us Ray and Siemian. 2016 is a little too early to judge, but Parks, Simmons, Booker, and Dixon have all shown promise. Perhaps if Denver were already an incredibly deep team that just needed one more special player to put them over the top your idea would have merit. But, we're not. We have a number of holes that need to be filled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoSexyDaddy View Post
    Cam Robinson OL would be my pick.
    Completely agree. Compares to Cordy Glenn. Big man LT that has the power we need to solidify our new power oline.
    A healthy Kenneth Dixon is a top 5 NFL RB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawinkerpoppin View Post
    Quality over quantity. Alot of people favor having a ton of picks but what's the point if none of those picks ever make an impact? Would you trade your entire 2016 draft for bosa? Would you trade your entire 2014 for Mack? Some people would say they rather have the picks but what's the point when you walk away with zero impact players? We are talking 5 players of potential marginal/minimal impact and special teams players or 1 potential all pro player.
    Interesting.

    How about trading Picks with Cleveland, and giving up Siemian (if we get Romo), Shaq or Rey, our 1st Rounder, and whatever later Round Pick it might take to move up and take Myles Garrett. Cleveland has many Picks, and they need a QB that they won't find in this Draft. It would be nice to have two Aggie Freaks coming from opposite directions on every play, and we would still have Picks for our other needs.

    Hey, we can dream, can't we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawinkerpoppin View Post
    Quality over quantity. Alot of people favor having a ton of picks but what's the point if none of those picks ever make an impact? Would you trade your entire 2016 draft for bosa? Would you trade your entire 2014 for Mack? Some people would say they rather have the picks but what's the point when you walk away with zero impact players? We are talking 5 players of potential marginal/minimal impact and special teams players or 1 potential all pro player.
    Obviously depends on who you take. Looking back at the 2012 draft, I would not trade it all for any singular person. Wolfe, Jackson, and Trevathon completed the defense and were a large part of our SB win. 2013 draft class, not one guy left on our team; however, who in the top 10 would you trade that draft class for...lots of busts.

    I think historically more picks the better and you will find some hits, some even come in year one and establish their worth.
    Ravens GM 2016 - Ravens are looking to trade down 4-8 spots

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    1) Any of the 3 LTs or Lamp
    2) OJ Howard
    3) Malik McDowell

    Trade up Leonard Fournette would be my dream scenario.

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    Oj howard!!

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    How about the best player available who isn't a QB, DB or WR?
    "Stultum est timere quod vitare non potes." ~ Publilius Syrus

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    Quote Originally Posted by samparnell View Post
    How about the best player available who isn't a QB, DB or WR?
    I would take a WR if it's Davis, Williams, or Ross. Otherwise I want a LB, OL, or offensive weapon.

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