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  • NVthosebroncos
    Banned User
    • Dec 2009
    • 833

    What's the price

    Of moving up to the 33rd pick?
  • MHOC
    Starter
    • Mar 2013
    • 2215

    #2
    Our 2
    First 3

    And a 6 or 7

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    • the0rangecrush
      Captain
      • Apr 2009
      • 15762

      #3
      Originally posted by MHOC View Post
      Our 2
      First 3

      And a 6 or 7
      Perhaps more than that. For reference in 2015 the Giants moved up from 40 to 33, and it cost them their 2nd, 4th, and 6th. We are picking at 51. From that same draft, houston moved up from 51 to 43, and it cost them their 2nd, 4th, and 5th.
      What's the difference between ignorance and apathy?
      I don't know and I don't care

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      • Gbt31
        All-Time Great
        • Nov 2003
        • 3913

        #4
        All trades are subjective. It all depends on how badly the person wants to move down...or how badly a team wishes to move up. Sure there is an objective chart to go by....but that is a just a guideline not a league rule in wish teams have to follow. Who do you want at 33? Just curious?
        New England Patriots GM

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        • mozzerpete
          All-Pro
          • May 2008
          • 3010

          #5
          Tangent note:

          Anyone remember the debate whether or not DEN should
          play for pride or draft position during week 17 against OAK?

          I wonder if any poster has changed their mind either way?

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          • NVthosebroncos
            Banned User
            • Dec 2009
            • 833

            #6
            No one certain. I just feel like there will be a few guys who fall. TJ watt Forest Lamp and a few others who may be on our radar at #20 but fall.

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            • Gbt31
              All-Time Great
              • Nov 2003
              • 3913

              #7
              Originally posted by mozzerpete View Post
              Tangent note:

              Anyone remember the debate whether or not DEN should
              play for pride or draft position during week 17 against OAK?

              I wonder if any poster has changed their mind either way?
              I still think we did the right thing and played to win the game. I disagree with Kubiak playing Siemian hurt the entire game, especially since our Defense had ahold of their Offense. But playing to lose shouldn't even be an option in Bronco Football.
              New England Patriots GM

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              • Rich_C
                Captain
                • Aug 2012
                • 5921

                #8
                Originally posted by mozzerpete View Post
                Tangent note:

                Anyone remember the debate whether or not DEN should
                play for pride or draft position during week 17 against OAK?

                I wonder if any poster has changed their mind either way?
                Nope I have not. I think we should have benched and subbed players and not won. We were already out of the post season and at that point we should have already been looking ahead to the next season and the draft....to that end draft position is kind of important.

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                • NVthosebroncos
                  Banned User
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 833

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Rich_C View Post
                  Nope I have not. I think we should have benched and subbed players and not won. We were already out of the post season and at that point we should have already been looking ahead to the next season and the draft....to that end draft position is kind of important.
                  Agreed. I forget where would we have been drafting if we lost?

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                  • samparnell
                    Soy Capitan Meshpoint
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 36521

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Rich_C View Post
                    Nope I have not. I think we should have benched and subbed players and not won. We were already out of the post season and at that point we should have already been looking ahead to the next season and the draft....to that end draft position is kind of important.
                    Really? I would be interested to know you would expect to have accomplished that in view of the fact the Raiders scored six points. Carr was out. McGloin got knocked out after 22 snaps and Connor Cook, who was active for his first game, took over.

                    I like how you say that you hoped the Broncos had "not won". Why not just say you wanted them to lose? Hey, Coach, before the team leaves the locker room, tell them to go out there and lose because we want to get as high in next year's draft order as possible.
                    "Stultum est timere quod vitare non potes." ~ Publilius Syrus

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                    • brianmcfarlane
                      Football Immortal
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 4114

                      #11
                      Originally posted by mozzerpete View Post
                      Tangent note:

                      Anyone remember the debate whether or not DEN should
                      play for pride or draft position during week 17 against OAK?

                      I wonder if any poster has changed their mind either way?
                      NEVER! Not against the Raiders! Never.
                      sigpic

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                      • Kon
                        Practice Squad
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 354

                        #12
                        Originally posted by NVthosebroncos View Post
                        Agreed. I forget where would we have been drafting if we lost?
                        Looks like we would have been selecting 17th in the first, 16th in the 2nd, 15th in the third, etc. Because of strength of schedule we would draft last out of the 8-8 teams. Not that big of a change, really.

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                        • mozzerpete
                          All-Pro
                          • May 2008
                          • 3010

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Kon View Post
                          Looks like we would have been selecting 17th in the first, 16th in the 2nd, 15th in the third, etc. Because of strength of schedule we would draft last out of the 8-8 teams. Not that big of a change, really.
                          P14: (PHI) via MIN 8-8 (0.488) (Conf 5-7) (Div 2-4, 3rd place)
                          P15: IND 8-8 (0.477) (Conf 5-7) (Div 3-3, 3rd place)
                          P16: BAL 8-8 (0.484) (Conf 7-5) (Div 4-2, 2nd place)

                          P17: WAS 8-7-1 (0.492) (Conf 6-6) (Div 3-3, 3rd place)

                          P18: TEN 9-7 (0.473) (Conf 6-6) (Div 2-4, 2nd place)
                          P19: TB 9-7 (0.543) (Conf 7-5) (Div 4-2, 2nd place)
                          P20: DEN 9-7 (0.504) (Conf 6-6) (Div 2-4, 3rd place)

                          Draft order is based on wins, strength of schedule, conference then division record.

                          Given this info from NFL.com I'm uncertain as to why TEN is ahead of DEN or BAL is ahead of IND.

                          DEN at 8-8 and strength of schedule (0.504) would be selecting at P14.

                          Unless I'm off?
                          Last edited by mozzerpete; 03-20-2017, 03:56 PM.

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                          • MHOC
                            Starter
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 2215

                            #14
                            We would have picked 18th in the first round had we lost to Oak
                            SOS goes from low to high not the other way around

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                            • NVthosebroncos
                              Banned User
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 833

                              #15
                              Rumor has it

                              That the cowboys have reached out to the seahawks with interest in trading for Richard Sherman. Last week it was reported that the Seahawks would trade him for the right offer.. no way the cowboys could pull off a trade with their current cap space. So maybe we will finally figure out this Tony Romo saga.

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