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  1. #166
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spice 1 View Post
    Even though that loss sucked, I gotta give it up for Dobbins. That guy is a warrior.
    He is a warrior! I wish Fields would've hit him on that interception play at the end. He was open, and had some room. 47 seconds left & a timeout. I'm not blaming the refs on this loss. I do think that was a catch, and fumble but we settled for too many field goals in the first half. I think LSU will win the title in a couple of weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELWAY421 View Post
    He is a warrior! I wish Fields would've hit him on that interception play at the end. He was open, and had some room. 47 seconds left & a timeout. I'm not blaming the refs on this loss. I do think that was a catch, and fumble but we settled for too many field goals in the first half. I think LSU will win the title in a couple of weeks.
    Yeah. I think LSU's gunna take it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butler By'Note View Post
    I disagree, I think the true difference was Ohio State's inability to play disciplined football. The targeting play was just a ridiculously selfish play to make. You have him dead to rights, no need to go helmet to helmet. That play flipped the game. Then you have the PI call where the DB was grabbing his arm the entire way down the field, and not just a quick grab, holding his hand type grab. And of course they stop Clemson deep in the Clemson end and they take a roughing the kicker call. I'm not ready to call that selfish, but when you're going to block a punt you should be taking an angle by the punter, not going directly to him, because too often that's what happens when you go right to him.

    Obviously the scoop and score was a big play, but at least 2 of those 3 penalties completely changed the game tonight. Clemson didn't take those penalties. Championship teams don't take those penalties.
    Oh donít get me wrong I completely agree Ohio st choked after going up 16-0. Plenty of dumb mistakes including the final dagger.

    All Iím saying is on replay itís really hard not to call it a catch, fumble and score. And the tv ref claiming you canít watch that one in slow mow to decide and you an easily see no football move in full speed is the first time Iíve ever heard anyone at any level make that claim. We do slow mow relay challenges for a reason. So refs can see what they couldnít see live. It was bang bang and as a non Ohio st fan I donít take issue with the call. However putting my bias aside itís hard not to think that was a fumble on replay.

    That wouldíve given Ohio st a 30-28 lead after the Clemson 94 yard drive (28 cuz then Clemson would have no reason to have gone for two). And they would be kicking an onside kick at 1:49 instead of kicking off.

    Itís easy to point that that play as the difference in the game. Even if Ohio st made tons of other mistakes that also hurt them.

    But I agree though 2 bad picks for a qb who almost threw non all year, a defense who fell flat after the first 25 minutes, several bad penalties, and an offense that also went stagnant after the first 25 minutes cost them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spice 1 View Post
    Meh. I don't know if he was trying to hit the guy in the helmet, but I don't think he was. Watching it live, it looked like Lawrence dipped into it. I'm not in his head though, so I dunno. When you watch it live, it happens so fast that there's just no way of knowing what the intent was. End of the day though, he lowered his head, and that's what ultimately burned him and the Buckeyes.

    That call in the Oklahoma game though...yeah. That was definitely targeting.
    Lawrence dipped a little bit, but he still led with the crown of his helmet, which you can't do. Lawrence was done, he could have destroyed him with a solid shoulder to chest, no penalty.

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