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    Quote Originally Posted by KWHIT97 View Post
    Who can you put around Rodgers when he’s the highest paid player in the NFL? It’s ridiculous that he’s pulling in nearly 35 million a year and playing with scrubs. This is why Brady will always be a step above Aaron Rodgers, because he takes less money to help his team add pieces to compete. Brady is the 16th highest paid QB. Rodgers is a greedy punk and thus doesn’t deserve another ring. McCarthy was his scapegoat.
    I agree. The whole team was dysfunctional from Ted Thompson on down. I would however say that Green bay always had really good weapons surrounding Rodgers. Jordy, Davante Adams, Randall Cobb, etc.... He had plenty of talent around him. IF you were watching closesly this year, Rodgers had to scream and pout and use the media to get them to start playing Aaron Jones rather than Tymo and Williams. Its like McCarthy had John Fox syndrome where he was afraid to play young guys who were better in favor of Vets. I think this is a situation must like cleveland and Denver this year. All of the teams (GB) (Den) (Cle) are better than the records reflect, but all have been afflicted by poor coaching that is not putting us in situations to win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broncolee View Post
    It’s funny how people talk about how Brady wins with a bunch of scrubs around him with few exceptions but then make excuses for Rodgers.

    McCarthy, to my knowledge, didn’t have full say on the roster so he can’t really be blamed for any perceived lack of talent.

    I hope he gets another chance, but if Rodgers were as good as people make him out to be, McCarthy would still be in Green Bay.
    Yes. Perhaps Rodgers isn't the football God some in the media portray him as.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gsam View Post
    I agree. The whole team was dysfunctional from Ted Thompson on down. I would however say that Green bay always had really good weapons surrounding Rodgers. Jordy, Davante Adams, Randall Cobb, etc.... He had plenty of talent around him. IF you were watching closesly this year, Rodgers had to scream and pout and use the media to get them to start playing Aaron Jones rather than Tymo and Williams. Its like McCarthy had John Fox syndrome where he was afraid to play young guys who were better in favor of Vets. I think this is a situation must like cleveland and Denver this year. All of the teams (GB) (Den) (Cle) are better than the records reflect, but all have been afflicted by poor coaching that is not putting us in situations to win.
    Aaron jones is 24 and jamaal williams is 23. i don't see how age or anything. that seems like poor goaching and not properly judging talent

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    Rodgers hasnt had any supporting cast. No hof wrs , te's ect. This is what happens when a Qb is making a crap ton of $. Theres not much to go around to get top tier players unless one is drafted and turns out to be special. McCarthy has done good for what hes had given to him. Rodgers , if ya wanna compete for a ring again maybe take a little less pay to spread the wealth around .

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    Quote Originally Posted by orange crush75 View Post
    Rodgers hasnt had any supporting cast. No hof wrs , te's ect. This is what happens when a Qb is making a crap ton of $. Theres not much to go around to get top tier players unless one is drafted and turns out to be special. McCarthy has done good for what hes had given to him. Rodgers , if ya wanna compete for a ring again maybe take a little less pay to spread the wealth around .
    Historically the Packers have opted to stay out of free agency. Even if Rodgers took less they wouldn’t spend it in free agency to build the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beastlyskronk View Post
    Historically the Packers have opted to stay out of free agency. Even if Rodgers took less they wouldn’t spend it in free agency to build the team.
    Fact is Rodgers has had massive contracts and there was not a lot of $ to go around

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    Quote Originally Posted by flosstein View Post
    To play devil's advocate, HOF HC Tony Dungee had an NFL Legend for many years and only 1 SB to show for it? Does that make him a "potato"? HOF HC Don Shula also had a Legend for many years and only 1 SB appearance, was he a potato?

    I'm not saying McCarthy is a future HOF HC, but what makes him a "potato"?
    ....Shula has made 6 SB appearances including 3 in a row. He has been to SB 3,6,7,8,17,19. He has a record of 2-4 in those SB's winning back to back 7 and 8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL BRONCO View Post
    ....Shula has made 6 SB appearances including 3 in a row. He has been to SB 3,6,7,8,17,19. He has a record of 2-4 in those SB's winning back to back 7 and 8.
    I was referencing the Dan Marino era. I’m well aware of his pre-Marino achievements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orange crush75 View Post
    Fact is Rodgers has had massive contracts and there was not a lot of $ to go around
    I’m well aware, they also wouldn’t have spent that money in free agency if he took less. They’ll have close to 50 mil in cap space next year. They’ll overpay and use up 30 mil on players already on the team and use 10 mil on bargain deals and continue to stay in neutral.

    Maybe the new GM will be different but last offseason he went after a 35 year old corner, a CB that previously played on the team and wasn’t special, a declining interior dlineman with attitude issues, and an aging TE with a balky knee and injury prone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KWHIT97 View Post
    Who can you put around Rodgers when he’s the highest paid player in the NFL? It’s ridiculous that he’s pulling in nearly 35 million a year and playing with scrubs. This is why Brady will always be a step above Aaron Rodgers, because he takes less money to help his team add pieces to compete. Brady is the 16th highest paid QB. Rodgers is a greedy punk and thus doesn’t deserve another ring. McCarthy was his scapegoat.
    Brady is the only QB in the NFL that takes less. And his "taking less" is a shell game that the Patriots spin and the media believes. His contracts are structured with massive signing bonuses that are spread over the first 5 years, then the first couple of years have minimum salaries because he got everything in the signing bonus upfront. The last few years have the salaries jacked up, but with the knowledge that he'll be extended at that time, with another massive signing bonus and they'll continue to do the same thing. He's never actually taken less money, the Patriots have just found a way to work the salary cap (and to Brady's credit he goes along with it) and the media buys into it completely.

    And there's the open secret that the NFL continues to allow the Pats to get away with. That "secret" is that the Patriots give Brady space in their team complex for his TB12 Sports Therapy Centre, which Pats players are then urged to use, and the Patriots pay him for the entire thing. It's also open to the public, and partly owned by Kraft, which is why the NFL likely allows them to continue to do this. The Patriots pay the Center $200 per hour for each player that goes there.

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/r...spect-partner/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butler By'Note View Post
    Brady is the only QB in the NFL that takes less. And his "taking less" is a shell game that the Patriots spin and the media believes. His contracts are structured with massive signing bonuses that are spread over the first 5 years, then the first couple of years have minimum salaries because he got everything in the signing bonus upfront. The last few years have the salaries jacked up, but with the knowledge that he'll be extended at that time, with another massive signing bonus and they'll continue to do the same thing. He's never actually taken less money, the Patriots have just found a way to work the salary cap (and to Brady's credit he goes along with it) and the media buys into it completely.

    And there's the open secret that the NFL continues to allow the Pats to get away with. That "secret" is that the Patriots give Brady space in their team complex for his TB12 Sports Therapy Centre, which Pats players are then urged to use, and the Patriots pay him for the entire thing. It's also open to the public, and partly owned by Kraft, which is why the NFL likely allows them to continue to do this. The Patriots pay the Center $200 per hour for each player that goes there.

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/r...spect-partner/
    Thank you Butter for pointing this out. I am so sick of hearing that Brady has taken all these team contracts to benefit the organization. What a crock.

    He has never done so. It’s all about how they structured his contact and managed his deals.

    Stop with the “Brady has done so much to help the team win” nonsense.”

    He hasn’t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by broncoslover115 View Post
    Thank you Butter for pointing this out.
    BL your not suppose to call him that here on the boards!
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    Quote Originally Posted by armedequation View Post
    BL your not suppose to call him that here on the boards!
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    Quote Originally Posted by samparnell View Post
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    Ive already said too much...if i disappear you will know why
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    Mike is another John Fox type coach as in the type of coach who isn't gonna do anything big. Very conservative. Plays not to lose instead of playing to win.

    Low risk kind of guy.

    The issue he had in Green Bay has been personnel decisions. He would make boneheaded decisions that left people asking why. For example, he'd take out Jones when Jones is hot.

    Against Seattle after the rookie tight end caught a TD from Rodgers, that tight end was never seen again.

    The other big reason for his firing is conflict of interest in playing calling with Rodgers.

    Aaron wants to be more dynamic, open up the play book and take shots.

    Mike wants to play it safe.

    Basically what Aaron wants to be like Favre. Favre just played like a kid in the back yard, just slinging it. Rodgers wants to do that.

    Mike wanted short yardage safe plays.

    Overall the situation was just a coach being with a team too long without much Progress being made and the only major success being 1 Super Bowl. Not gonna fly when you have a Hall of Fame QB.

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