View Poll Results: Who Do You Want As HC?

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  • Chuck Pagano

    6 8.70%
  • Zac Taylor

    5 7.25%
  • Vic Fangio

    25 36.23%
  • Mike Munchak

    8 11.59%
  • Brian Flores

    1 1.45%
  • Other

    24 34.78%
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeCrush_304 View Post
    Possibly OLine coaches as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butler By'Note View Post
    I'm with you on experience, although I don't think it has to be HC experience. Look at Vic Fangio, he's been a top DC in the NFL for the last 8 seasons, he's got the experience needed. That doesn't mean he'll be a good HC, but he's got the experience. Both Munchak and Pagano also have a lot of NFL experience.
    Ummm, you're saying you would accept a new hc that had no hc experience in hopes that he is a good hc??? That's crazy. What if he turns out to be another VJ???? Was 2 losing seasons in a row not enough for you Butler??.? God forbid the fo does that train wreck again. Let Tampa Bay or the Raiders or KC or any of the other 31 one teams row that boat into the rocks. We NEED experience!! PERIOD. And McCarthy is out I am sure so Shanny gets my vote.

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    I want someone who has been an offensive/defensive coordinator in the NFL...for at least two seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowlands View Post
    I want chuck. He has experience. D mind, combined with Kubs O mind. I like the combo.
    Kubs O mind??? What? On what planet have you ever seen a Kubs led offense, or even as a HC, inspire you as an offensive genius. I like the man, but he was only a so-so head coach and he's never made me think of offensive genius mind. Yes, he had some good years here under Shannahan with Elway at QB. And, I suppose Shanny wasn't the only one guiding the offense with Griese and Plummer under center. And, please don't rely on SB50 as his masterpiece of offensive genius.
    And, as far as having his input into our QB? Well he was around when we got Paxton Lynch, Trevor Semien, and Case Keenum. I don't know what his voice in those decisions was, just that him being around does not give me confidence at all.
    I'm fine with Kubiak in the front office as he is part of our legacy, but please don't let him muddy the water with our new head coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Rod- View Post
    Again, the people attributing those qualities to Zac Taylor are the ones that worked or still work with him. It's not a creation by the media without any substance. Where can Taylor demonstrate his ideas? How about the meetings he has with his head coach and the coaching staff? Just because he is not a coordinator calling plays, it does not mean he is not contributing with ideas, suggesting plays and matchups to help the offense and his QBs. How do coaches risse in the ranks and get promoted to coordinators? I guess it's by showing their offensive minds while working as position coaches.

    If you don't want Zac Taylor to skip a step and believe he must prove himself as a coordinator first, that's fine. However, it is possible for a young coach to show an innovative, bright football mind in meetings rooms through the years without being the one calling plays during the game.

    Maybe Vance Joseph has a good football mind inside four walls, but he just could not get it done under pressure when the clock was running. His brain froze when the bullets were flying. He could not coach his coordinators, manage the clock, the challenges, and even contradicted himself in less than a week when it comes to being aggressive on 4th down. No one can tell how Zac Taylor will be as a game manager in role of a head coach, even if he had multiple years of success as a coordinator. That's the part you only learn when it actually happens.
    I wasn't referring to media hype, but exactly what you are talking about. Here's some key examples:

    "I told V.J. when I was with the Texans: ‘You need to be a coordinator or a head coach. You’re too good a coach to be just my secondary coach.’"

    -Wade Phillips in an interview to the Denver Post.

    and

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddletramp View Post
    I don't think any OC could draft a game scheme for Keenum. Rookie OC or with 10 years experience. Keenum is too stupid.
    Pat Shurmur did in Minnesota.

    The reason Keenum is even in the League at all is because Kubiak pressed to sign him as a UFA, and this is because he had watched all his games as a Houston Cougar. Kubes knows CK's strengths and limitations and so if he does return to OC here, he will have a better grasp of how to get the most out of him and design the offense around him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by L.M. View Post
    Pat Shurmur did in Minnesota.

    The reason Keenum is even in the League at all is because Kubiak pressed to sign him as a UFA, and this is because he had watched all his games as a Houston Cougar. Kubes knows CK's strengths and limitations and so if he does return to OC here, he will have a better grasp of how to get the most out of him and design the offense around him.
    I don't foresee kub as Oc but I could be wrong...

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    All I know is I am sick & tired of Elway running this like a club where your "friends & family " get jobs. Get an adult like McCarthy, Shanny , Pagano or Muncheck. Otherwise you are spinning the wheel again with vance 2.0 and 3 yrs of losses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bfallona View Post
    All I know is I am sick & tired of Elway running this like a club where your "friends & family " get jobs. Get an adult like McCarthy, Shanny , Pagano or Muncheck. Otherwise you are spinning the wheel again with vance 2.0 and 3 yrs of losses.
    McCarthy is quickly looking like a guy who thought he could pick his destination and will not get any jobs because of it, add in that he's a pretty mediocre (at best) coach, and failed to maximize his team's output with one of the best QBs in the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butler By'Note View Post
    McCarthy is quickly looking like a guy who thought he could pick his destination and will not get any jobs because of it, add in that he's a pretty mediocre (at best) coach, and failed to maximize his team's output with one of the best QBs in the league.
    Or, maybe Rodgers is overrated.

    I think itís obvious that Rodgers is a spoiled brat of a quarterback who thinks heís entitled and above the team and the coach.

    He also wasnít the one with last say on player acquisitions.

    Rodgers apologists love to talk about how he doesnít have anybody around him. Thatís not McCarthyís fault.

    Outside of two obvious exceptions, Brady hasnít had any superstar talent around him. The Patriots have been to eight Super Bowls and won five of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broncolee View Post
    Or, maybe Rodgers is overrated.

    I think it’s obvious that Rodgers is a spoiled brat of a quarterback who thinks he’s entitled and above the team and the coach.

    He also wasn’t the one with last say on player acquisitions.

    Rodgers apologists love to talk about how he doesn’t have anybody around him. That’s not McCarthy’s fault.

    Outside of two obvious exceptions, Brady hasn’t had any superstar talent around him. The Patriots have been to eight Super Bowls and won five of them.
    That's debatable. For starters, their first three were won with outstanding defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broncolee View Post
    Or, maybe Rodgers is overrated.

    I think it’s obvious that Rodgers is a spoiled brat of a quarterback who thinks he’s entitled and above the team and the coach.

    He also wasn’t the one with last say on player acquisitions.

    Rodgers apologists love to talk about how he doesn’t have anybody around him. That’s not McCarthy’s fault.

    Outside of two obvious exceptions, Brady hasn’t had any superstar talent around him. The Patriots have been to eight Super Bowls and won five of them.
    Going down that road, how did the Packers do in games where Rodgers didn't play? It can be two things though, Rodgers is overrated (he probably is, but he's still an excellent QB) and McCarthy is a bad NFL HC. We'll see if/when he gets another job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by broncolee View Post
    Or, maybe Rodgers is overrated.

    I think it’s obvious that Rodgers is a spoiled brat of a quarterback who thinks he’s entitled and above the team and the coach.

    He also wasn’t the one with last say on player acquisitions.

    Rodgers apologists love to talk about how he doesn’t have anybody around him. That’s not McCarthy’s fault.

    Outside of two obvious exceptions, Brady hasn’t had any superstar talent around him. The Patriots have been to eight Super Bowls and won five of them.
    As much as I hate to say it, the Pats always seem to find players who fit their system. Even if they're not the most talented, they tend to excel. They probably wouldn't do so well on another team. Off the top of my head examples include Troy Brown, Kevin Faulk, Tedy Bruschi, Mike Vrabel, Deion Branch, Wes Welker, and Julian Edelman. Of course, they have also had supremely talented players like Gronk, Moss, Ty Law, Willie McGinest, Richard Seymour, and Vince Wilfork.

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