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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyBrady12 View Post
    You wouldn't have been able to handle our 2014 or 2016 teams.
    And none of the Pats teams would have handled our 1998 team. BB could not figure Shanny out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyBrady12 View Post
    pretty sure he has a winning record vs the Denver Broncos.
    WRONG!

    Tammy's career record against the broncos is 8-9

    What he does against the rest of the NFL is one thing but the simple fact of the matter is that the broncos have owned him over his career & there is no disputing those facts.

    Tammy will never have a winning record against denver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyBrady12 View Post
    You wouldn't have been able to handle our 2014 or 2016 teams.
    Those must have been "great years for NE personnel wise" thus having very little to do with Brady.
    It's the system. Got it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncosFanInPA View Post
    WRONG!

    Tammy's career record against the broncos is 8-9

    What he does against the rest of the NFL is one thing but the simple fact of the matter is that the broncos have owned him over his career & there is no disputing those facts.

    Tammy will never have a winning record against denver.
    According to this he's 7-6 against Denver. And even if it is 8-9 that's not "owning" anyone. That's basically .500.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mozzerpete View Post
    Those must have been "great years for NE personnel wise" thus having very little to do with Brady.
    It's the system. Got it!
    Our o-lines were healthy those years. BTW, how's the offseason going?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assassin27 View Post
    And none of the Pats teams would have handled our 1998 team. BB could not figure Shanny out.
    I would argue our 2003-2004 teams could hold their own against the 1998 Broncos. They won 21 straight games and 2 super bowls. Isn't Shanny on the unemployment line somewhere? I heard he wanted to get back into coaching but no one wants him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyBrady12 View Post
    pretty sure he has a winning record vs the Denver Broncos.
    That'd be a negatory there Tommy boy. He's 8-9 vs Denver including playoffs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyBrady12 View Post
    According to this he's 7-6 against Denver. And even if it is 8-9 that's not "owning" anyone. That's basically .500.

    https://www.pro-football-reference.c...adTo00/splits/
    That's not counting playoffs where yes, we've dominated Brady boy in the playoffs. 1-3 and the 1 win in the playoffs was Tim Tebow...


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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyBrady12 View Post
    According to this he's 7-6 against Denver. And even if it is 8-9 that's not "owning" anyone. That's basically .500.

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    1-3 Games that matter the most POST SEASON

    8-9 TOTAL........ You should learn how to research better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyaka View Post
    That's not counting playoffs where yes, we've dominated Brady boy in the playoffs. 1-3 and the 1 win in the playoffs was Tim Tebow...
    Basically .500 overall. Lucky for you it was Matt Cassell who beat you in 2008 when Brady was injured...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stackhouser View Post
    7-6 Regular Season

    1-3 Games that matter the most POST SEASON

    8-9 TOTAL........ You should learn how to research better.
    Too bad you wont make the playoffs again during the Brady era

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyBrady12 View Post
    Basically .500 overall. Lucky for you it was Matt Cassell who beat you in 2008 when Brady was injured...
    Nah..... It's not "basically" .500, it's .470. He has a losing record against the Broncos. You can't flip it any other way no matter how hard you try!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyBrady12 View Post
    Too bad you won’t make the playoffs again during the Brady era
    LOL...... You really hate to get smacked down don't you. You are proven incorrect all the time. Personally, I've proven your research and "facts" incorrect numerous times over the last couple years..... AND YOU HATE IT!!!! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stackhouser View Post
    I'd also like to add.....

    I had to research the accuracy aspect you brought up between Brady and Elway. Here's what I've found out.................

    ESPN did a study in 2017 on short passes vs. beyond the sticks. In weeks 1-13, QB's threw 672 passes under 10 yards @ 72.3% and 390 passes over 10 yards @ 42.8%. This trend started in the pass happy "Sally" era in the early 2000's because it's an effective method. It's explained as an extended running game, if you've never heard that term. In 2004 a study was done on short passing in the NFL. Guess which QB threw the highest percentage of short passes, (1-10 yards)??? Anyone? If you guess Tom Brady, you are correct!!! He is averaging 58.3% of his passes within the 1-10 yard range and maintains that every year, (next gen stats) There's been several articles as well that state Brady throws the worse long ball but is the best under 10 yards.



    Therefore the conclusion of my thesis, (LOL), is that Brady has had better accuracy due to the short passes and the era where the receivers aren't being draped on all the way down the field leaving smaller windows for completion!!


    *This is not a knock on his success, just some fact checking*
    You didn't even respond to this one....... LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stackhouser View Post
    I'm so confused on the arguments being brought to the table...... First Brady played in the old era, (no). Then Elway didn't, (no). Drastic rule changes started in 2001 to benefit the QB and offense, PERIOD. Then somewhere out of the blue, the amount of sacks QB's take matters with the discussion that was started? (no). Then something about Ty Law and Manning showed up, like you think its going to get us going?? Nobody cares. It's still part of, as Assassin stated, The "Sally" era.

    This conversation continues to move around until something sticks I guess........ The rules changed, creating a passing league that HAS benefited Brady, Brees, Manning, Rivers, etc.......
    Or this.....

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