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    Quote Originally Posted by Broncos-R-Great View Post
    whether he succeeds or fails will have nothing to do with the amount of time he spends on the bench. Making QBs wait is such an outdated way of thinking.
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    It is fascinating how people still parrot that narrative despite the vast amount of evidence supporting the inverse.

    You get one Patrick Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers every decade or so. The cast majority of pther successful QBs develop on the field. Do people really think the Rodgers and Mahomes of the world would have busted if they played more, earlier? Mahomes himself said he learned more in his one start as a rookie than the entirety of the rest of the year behind Alex Smith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronco51 View Post
    You can't realistically draft a QB though and then wait however many years for the time to be right. If he can't play, it will show. Same as if he can play.
    It's only week 4, and he's on IR. When he is ready, then we can entertain the thought of starting him, until then we have our Bridge QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 58Miller View Post
    Seems to have worked well for Pat Mahomes
    He played his rookie year..... (yes it was the last game). As well as heís played since, and played in that game, the Chiefs likely wouldíve been better off just starting him that whole year instead of wasting that season on Alex Smith.

    You canít honestly say the reason heís been so good is because he sat out most of his rookie year.

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    J. Flacco sacked 6 times for a loss of 52 yards.......Enough said

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    Quote Originally Posted by 58Miller View Post
    So the QBs who is playing the best football in the nfl is not the way you want to groom our teams QB? Sorry I donít agree
    They play when they are ready to play. Didn't you all say the same thing with any of the last batch of trash qb's in orange and blue? Sounds eerily familiar...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoBreeder View Post
    J. Flacco sacked 6 times for a loss of 52 yards.......Enough said
    Right. He needs to do a better job sliding protections and feeling the pressure. We already know he has Orton-level mobility so it's hard to ask him to avoid any rushers at all. God forbid we ask him to help out a struggling OL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa-pwn View Post
    QFT

    It is fascinating how people still parrot that narrative despite the vast amount of evidence supporting the inverse.

    You get one Patrick Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers every decade or so. The cast majority of pther successful QBs develop on the field. Do people really think the Rodgers and Mahomes of the world would have busted if they played more, earlier? Mahomes himself said he learned more in his one start as a rookie than the entirety of the rest of the year behind Alex Smith.
    Mahomes wouldíve set every rookie record if heíd played that year. They wasted a year and a loaded team on Alex Smith, it wasnít smart move to have him sit, it was a terrible move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronco51 View Post
    You can't realistically draft a QB though and then wait however many years for the time to be right. If he can't play, it will show. Same as if he can play.
    Realistically, the soonest he will be ready to start is next year. Raw, out of practice, coming off injury, bad OL = perfect recipe for failure and damage.
    Superbowl 50 MVP Von Miller on February 7th, 2016

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa-pwn View Post
    QFT

    It is fascinating how people still parrot that narrative despite the vast amount of evidence supporting the inverse.

    You get one Patrick Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers every decade or so. The cast majority of pther successful QBs develop on the field. Do people really think the Rodgers and Mahomes of the world would have busted if they played more, earlier? Mahomes himself said he learned more in his one start as a rookie than the entirety of the rest of the year behind Alex Smith.
    You are probably one of the very few people in the world that are convinced that our 2nd round draft pick will be on par with Patrick Mahomes - I think most would call it delusional.

    This whole Flacco hate train is absurd! Our defense has set a 50 year record by going 3 games without a TO or a sack. Every team that has played us has had their highest scoring game against us! In the last game only two drives started on a field shorter than 75 yards and none were thanks to our defense.

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    Week 3:

    Flacco passes of 5 yards or less- 14/17 82%

    Flacco passes of over 5 yards- 6/12 50%



    Totals on the year:

    5 yards or less- 48/62 77% 1 TD 1 INT

    Over 5 yards- 25/48 52% 1 TD 1 INT


    His limitations concerning depth of throw were brought up all offseason, the same issues have shown themselves weekly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.M. View Post
    Realistically, the soonest he will be ready to start is next year. Raw, out of practice, coming off injury, bad OL = perfect recipe for failure and damage.
    The o-line has been terrible for most of this decade, it ainít getting fixed anytime soon. If youíre waiting for the o-line to be fixed before you start a young QB, then youíll never start a young QB.

    Bad o-line play is rampant around the league, Iím afraid itís just something weíre going to have to live with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa-pwn View Post
    QFT

    It is fascinating how people still parrot that narrative despite the vast amount of evidence supporting the inverse.

    You get one Patrick Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers every decade or so. The cast majority of pther successful QBs develop on the field. Do people really think the Rodgers and Mahomes of the world would have busted if they played more, earlier? Mahomes himself said he learned more in his one start as a rookie than the entirety of the rest of the year behind Alex Smith.
    How many quarterbacks are ruined by being thrown onto the field their rookie year? There is no way of answering that question because a lot of QBs don't have the liberty to sit and learn. It's very rare for a highly drafted QB to not take over the reigns in their first season. The ones that do sit seem to have a higher success rate though (Mahomes, Rodgers, Brady, even Cousins).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JW7 View Post
    How many quarterbacks are ruined by being thrown onto the field their rookie year? There is no way of answering that question because a lot of QBs don't have the liberty to sit and learn. It's very rare for a highly drafted QB to not take over the reigns in their first season. The ones that do sit seem to have a higher success rate though (Mahomes, Rodgers, Brady, even Cousins).
    Youíre talking about 3 of the best QBs in the league, I highly doubt ďsittingĒ them had anything to
    do with their success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.M. View Post
    Realistically, the soonest he will be ready to start is next year. Raw, out of practice, coming off injury, bad OL = perfect recipe for failure and damage.
    We can all speculate on when he will be 'ready' to play. But it will be up to the coaches. If this season continues to be a dumpster fire, his 'realistic' timeline will be this season (if healthy)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broncos-R-Great View Post
    The o-line has been terrible for most of this decade, it ainít getting fixed anytime soon. If youíre waiting for the o-line to be fixed before you start a young QB, then youíll never start a young QB.

    Bad o-line play is rampant around the league, Iím afraid itís just something weíre going to have to live with.
    If they prioritize the OL in the draft and FA (as they should) it could be better next year. But it is a factor which when combined with the other ones, makes starting him now an ill-advised idea, because the line isn't going help him or buy him time. If he was healthy and had been practicing all this time, it might be a different story.

    Impatience can actually create a draft bust where there doesn't need to be one.

    I guess people can debate this until they are blue in the face but "The Democracy of the Fans" isn't in charge of anything. We'll see what happens.

    And somehow this has turned into the Lock thread. What are your thoughts on Flacco so far?
    Superbowl 50 MVP Von Miller on February 7th, 2016

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