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    I think Lock would probably be more comparable to Rosen if we are wanting to do recent draft comparisons. Though Rosen probably had a higher cieling. And may still does have a higher cieling.

    Haskins is probably more comparable to Flacco or Winston in size and play style. Though Winston is still more mobile. Haskins is probably more cerebral than Winston though.

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    Haskins is my man crush this year. I hope we draft him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor View Post
    Haskins is my man crush this year. I hope we draft him.
    If we sit tight at 10 and take a QB Iíll be ok with it.

    But if we sell the farm to move up for any of them Iím going to be highly disappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverBlood View Post
    If we sit tight at 10 and take a QB I’ll be ok with it.

    But if we sell the farm to move up for any of them I’m going to be highly disappointed.
    Let the board fall to us .Lock, Hoch or Bush cannot wait

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverBlood View Post
    If we sit tight at 10 and take a QB I’ll be ok with it.

    But if we sell the farm to move up for any of them I’m going to be highly disappointed.
    If we stay at 10...Haskins, Bush, Oliver or trade back. Can't wait either.

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    I get the feeling that Haskins has one of the lowest ceilings of any QB in the entire draft. Like he can play day 1 but he will never look like a top 10 Qb

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    "ESPN's Adam Schefter has "spoken to teams who don't have a first-round grade on" Ohio State QB Dwayne Haskins.
    Speaking to SiriusXMFantasy, Schefter predicted Haskins will be picked in the "10-17" range. A narrative has emerged suggesting Haskins' early first-round value is a media creation and teams are lower on the quarterback than the pundits. NBC Sports' Peter King even speculated Haskins could "be the fourth passer picked in this draft." Even if all of that is true, it would be a shock if the quarterback fell past the Giants at No. 17."


    Well that ruins a tad of our trade down value. Wouldn't surprise me if he is there at 10 and we pass on him. I agree with Orangecrush21. I just don't see this guy as being great. I know he isn't the prototypical Urban Meyers QB....but none of them in his great, collegiate coaching career have turned out great. Alex Smith is best one and he has been average to above average. Not buying into the hype. Spend our high value picks on players that can change our team now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangecrush21 View Post
    I get the feeling that Haskins has one of the lowest ceilings of any QB in the entire draft. Like he can play day 1 but he will never look like a top 10 Qb
    Same feeling I have about lock....go figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gbt31 View Post
    "ESPN's Adam Schefter has "spoken to teams who don't have a first-round grade on" Ohio State QB Dwayne Haskins.
    Speaking to SiriusXMFantasy, Schefter predicted Haskins will be picked in the "10-17" range. A narrative has emerged suggesting Haskins' early first-round value is a media creation and teams are lower on the quarterback than the pundits. NBC Sports' Peter King even speculated Haskins could "be the fourth passer picked in this draft." Even if all of that is true, it would be a shock if the quarterback fell past the Giants at No. 17."


    Well that ruins a tad of our trade down value. Wouldn't surprise me if he is there at 10 and we pass on him. I agree with Orangecrush21. I just don't see this guy as being great. I know he isn't the prototypical Urban Meyers QB....but none of them in his great, collegiate coaching career have turned out great. Alex Smith is best one and he has been average to above average. Not buying into the hype. Spend our high value picks on players that can change our team now.
    I wouldn't call him a prototype urban meter qb. He is not a good runner. He has different strength then alot of QBs under Meyers. And he is the least athletic and ran the less of any one I can think of under Meyers. I don't believe he is anything like a prototype urban meyer qb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyousukeneko View Post
    I wouldn't call him a prototype urban meter qb. He is not a good runner. He has different strength then alot of QBs under Meyers. And he is the least athletic and ran the less of any one I can think of under Meyers. I don't believe he is anything like a prototype urban meyer qb
    He didnít call him the prototypical Urban Meyer qb. He said he knows he isnít the prototypical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ear2dastreets View Post
    Same feeling I have about lock....go figure.
    You clearly haven't watched much film on him then. Lock easily has one of the highest ceilings in this Qb class. It's his floor that could actually be bad

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    I don't know why anyone would say Haskins has a low ceiling. He didn't take snaps with the 1st team until spring of 2018. He was playing in the wrong system for a pocket passer. The staff didn't change the protection until the last 1/3 of the season, and that was his most impressive stretch. All of these teams that are moving to Pat Mahomes style QB's need to know that only two "Mobile QB's" have ever won a Super Bowl are Wilson and Young.

    I think Haskins is being held to some ridiculous standard of speed due to being black, playing for Meyer, and people thinking that having an athletic QB somehow now wins Ships.

    No one said all of these QBs were too slow...
    26 Alex Smith 4.9
    27 Case Keenum 4.9
    28 Luke McCown 4.91
    29 Andy Dalton 4.92
    30 Matt McGloin 4.92
    31 Shaun Hill 4.92
    32 Aaron Rodgers 4.93
    33 Matthew Stafford 4.95
    34 Trevor Siemian 4.96
    35 AJ McCarron 4.96
    36 Jay Cutler 4.97
    37 Blake Bortles 4.97
    38 Ben Roethlisberger 4.99
    39 Jameis Winston 4.99
    40 Scott Tolzien 4.99
    41 Joe Flacco 5
    42 Mark Sanchez 5
    43 Mike Glennon 5
    44 Kirk Cousins 5.01
    45 Jimmy Garoppolo 5.01
    46 Tom Savage 5.01
    47 Chad Henne 5.04
    48 Matt Ryan 5.05
    49 Matt Moore 5.06
    50 Landry Jones 5.07
    51 Ryan Fitzpatrick 5.08
    52 Ryan Nassib 5.08
    53 Kellen Clemens 5.09
    54 Matt Cassel 5.12
    55 Drew Brees 5.13
    56 Dan Orlovsky 5.13
    57 Eli Manning 5.16
    58 Brian Hoyer 5.19
    59 Nick Foles 5.2
    60 Derek Anderson 5.2
    61 Matt Schaub 5.24
    62 Philip Rivers 5.32
    63 Ryan Mallett 5.43
    64 Tom Brady 5.6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckeye Bronco View Post
    I don't know why anyone would say Haskins has a low ceiling. He didn't take snaps with the 1st team until spring of 2018. He was playing in the wrong system for a pocket passer. The staff didn't change the protection until the last 1/3 of the season, and that was his most impressive stretch. All of these teams that are moving to Pat Mahomes style QB's need to know that only two "Mobile QB's" have ever won a Super Bowl are Wilson and Young.

    I think Haskins is being held to some ridiculous standard of speed due to being black, playing for Meyer, and people thinking that having an athletic QB somehow now wins Ships.

    No one said all of these QBs were too slow...
    26 Alex Smith 4.9
    27 Case Keenum 4.9
    28 Luke McCown 4.91
    29 Andy Dalton 4.92
    30 Matt McGloin 4.92
    31 Shaun Hill 4.92
    32 Aaron Rodgers 4.93
    33 Matthew Stafford 4.95
    34 Trevor Siemian 4.96
    35 AJ McCarron 4.96
    36 Jay Cutler 4.97
    37 Blake Bortles 4.97
    38 Ben Roethlisberger 4.99
    39 Jameis Winston 4.99
    40 Scott Tolzien 4.99
    41 Joe Flacco 5
    42 Mark Sanchez 5
    43 Mike Glennon 5
    44 Kirk Cousins 5.01
    45 Jimmy Garoppolo 5.01
    46 Tom Savage 5.01
    47 Chad Henne 5.04
    48 Matt Ryan 5.05
    49 Matt Moore 5.06
    50 Landry Jones 5.07
    51 Ryan Fitzpatrick 5.08
    52 Ryan Nassib 5.08
    53 Kellen Clemens 5.09
    54 Matt Cassel 5.12
    55 Drew Brees 5.13
    56 Dan Orlovsky 5.13
    57 Eli Manning 5.16
    58 Brian Hoyer 5.19
    59 Nick Foles 5.2
    60 Derek Anderson 5.2
    61 Matt Schaub 5.24
    62 Philip Rivers 5.32
    63 Ryan Mallett 5.43
    64 Tom Brady 5.6
    His low ceiling has nothing to do with not being mobile. His tools as a pocket passer are limited. His arm is good but not great etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangecrush21 View Post
    You clearly haven't watched much film on him then. Lock easily has one of the highest ceilings in this Qb class. It's his floor that could actually be bad
    Oh trust I watched enough "full games" I'm an sec fan. I dont see him nothing more than late 1st round

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangecrush21 View Post
    His low ceiling has nothing to do with not being mobile. His tools as a pocket passer are limited. His arm is good but not great etc.
    Lies, he has a very good arm....secondly what makes his skills as a pocket passer limited please do tell.?

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