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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAsianPA View Post
    Bradbury will most certainly be gone. I think the Vikings are a lock to take him in the 1st. Risner might not make it to day 2 either, so I'm hoping for Erik McCoy, who is also an excellent Center. Elgton Jenkins also should be an option on day 2.
    Why would the Vikings take him at 18? They have Elflein at OC. They might move one to OG but I think a better option for them would be an OT like Taylor or Dillard. they could then get an OG like Lindstrom, Risner, or McGary later. I think the Chiefs at 29 or Rams at 31 are good bets.
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    The OL is not very good, it must rank as a bottom 5 unit. The only 3 guaranteed starters are Bolles, James, and probably Leary if he is fit. Bolles is a questionable LT at best, James is a decent RT, and Leary is either injured or under-performing.

    The draft looks deep for the OL and having Munchak on board was a great signing. I think it would be a lost opportunity and pretty poor if 2 of our first 4 picks were not on the OL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
    Why would the Vikings take him at 18? They have Elflein at OC. They might move one to OG but I think a better option for them would be an OT like Taylor or Dillard. they could then get an OG like Lindstrom, Risner, or McGary later. I think the Chiefs at 29 or Rams at 31 are good bets.
    probably because Elflein graded out as one of the worst starting Centers in the league, and enters his contract year next season? Those are strong reasons. Their entire O-line could use an upgrade, but the C position is arguably their worst options. Their OT's aren't very bad. Riley Reiff graded out highly and Brian O'Neill is only 23 on a cheap contract. Next draft they'll have to consider replacing Reiff but I think he has one more good year left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bronx_2003 View Post
    The OL is not very good, it must rank as a bottom 5 unit. The only 3 guaranteed starters are Bolles, James, and probably Leary if he is fit. Bolles is a questionable LT at best, James is a decent RT, and Leary is either injured or under-performing.

    The draft looks deep for the OL and having Munchak on board was a great signing. I think it would be a lost opportunity and pretty poor if 2 of our first 4 picks were not on the OL.
    I still fume over picking Bolles over Ramczyk. Yes, I know they play different sides but I don't get the impression Ramczyk would have had this rocky of a road Bolles has had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAsianPA View Post
    I still fume over picking Bolles over Ramczyk. Yes, I know they play different sides but I don't get the impression Ramczyk would have had this rocky of a road Bolles has had.

    Still shakin my head over that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAsianPA View Post
    I still fume over picking Bolles over Ramczyk. Yes, I know they play different sides but I don't get the impression Ramczyk would have had this rocky of a road Bolles has had.
    Quote Originally Posted by FL BRONCO View Post
    Still shakin my head over that one.
    Im still wondering what Elway was thinking!
    He just wasnít doing his homework and itís coming back to bite him.

    Not saying Bolles is dumb but to be an NFL O-linemen, one has have a great memory and be pretty dam sharp!

    If Peyton Manning was to say ď55s the mike, HURRY HURRY OMAHA HUT HUTĒ his O-line doesnít moves. why?

    Because nothing is official until they hear a certain coded message disguised by usually one word. That word be as simple as saying ďyellowĒ!

    Itís sounds pretty silly but that is how most NFL offenses operate. You do not move until you hear that one word which makes it official. Bolles just doesnít get this!

    Manning absolutely would not have this guy on his offense. There are no plays in the playbook for 2nd & 20 and most defenses know this.

    Bolles is just not right for this team IMO but hopefully Munchak can do something with him and Iím wrong but at this point I doubt it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAsianPA View Post
    I still fume over picking Bolles over Ramczyk. Yes, I know they play different sides but I don't get the impression Ramczyk would have had this rocky of a road Bolles has had.
    It was probably the injury Ramczyk had that turned us away from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAsianPA View Post
    I still fume over picking Bolles over Ramczyk. Yes, I know they play different sides but I don't get the impression Ramczyk would have had this rocky of a road Bolles has had.
    I didn't like either of them TBH.

    In fairness to Bolles, if he was in NO's with Bree's at QB he is probably looking pretty good right now, whereas Ramczyk protecting TS, Lynch, and CK would not help him look good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_Z View Post
    Im still wondering what Elway was thinking!
    He just wasnít doing his homework and itís coming back to bite him.

    Not saying Bolles is dumb but to be an NFL O-linemen, one has have a great memory and be pretty dam sharp!

    If Peyton Manning was to say ď55s the mike, HURRY HURRY OMAHA HUT HUTĒ his O-line doesnít moves. why?

    Because nothing is official until they hear a certain coded message disguised by usually one word. That word be as simple as saying ďyellowĒ!

    Itís sounds pretty silly but that is how most NFL offenses operate. You do not move until you hear that one word which makes it official. Bolles just doesnít get this!

    Manning absolutely would not have this guy on his offense. There are no plays in the playbook for 2nd & 20 and most defenses know this.

    Bolles is just not right for this team IMO but hopefully Munchak can do something with him and Iím wrong but at this point I doubt it!
    What on earth are you talking about here? Bolles issue is not snap counts and false starts. His main issue is bad footwork and therefore holding once he gets beat.

    None of that has anything to do with knowing which word triggers the snap count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverBlood View Post
    What on earth are you talking about here? Bolles issue is not snap counts and false starts. His main issue is bad footwork and therefore holding once he gets beat.

    None of that has anything to do with knowing which word triggers the snap count.
    Are you Garrett Bolles using an alias? Why would it seem as if your offended by my comments?

    I understand Garrett draws penalties for holding but heís also guilty of jumping off sides.

    It doesnít make you a genius or garner you any points to attempt to bite someoneís head off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_Z View Post
    Are you Garrett Bolles using an alias? Why would it seem as if your offended by my comments?

    I understand Garrett draws penalties for holding but heís also guilty of jumping off sides.

    It doesnít make you a genius or garner you any points to attempt to bite someoneís head off.
    I wasnít doing any of that. Donít be so sensitive. I literally had no idea where you were going with all that and adding snap cadence to your post.

    Garrett Bolles was called for 3 false starts in 2018 and 0 offsides.

    But 7 holds.

    Thatís not that bad on understanding snaps counts for an entire 16 game season. And unlike holds false starts canít be declined so he didnít have any that he got away with.

    http://www.nflpenalties.com/player/g...ncos?year=2018


    In 2017 he had 4 false starts assessed

    http://www.nflpenalties.com/player/g-bolles-denver-broncos?year=2017

    So 7 in two seasons. But 14 holds. And holds can be declined if he allowed a sack on the play.

    I donít think Bolles issue is understanding snap count. Itís footwork mechanics.
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    I would not be upset if Denver selected OL in the first three rounds.

    Whoever Dever decides to field at QB; he's going to need an OL.

    R1 (trade #10 to early 20's): LT Andre Dillard, Washington State
    Allows Bolles to be moved elsewhere potentially.

    R1 (trade use #10's cache + R3 pick): C Garrett Bradbury, N.C. State
    Bradbury's selection gives Denver options with McGovern at C/G.

    R2: C/G Erik McCoy, Texas A&M
    McCoy played well against D. Lawrence and Q. Williams and would offer C/G depth.

    Leary will most likely be released in 2020 with over 8M saved, only 875K dead.

    Fast Forward one year 2020 OL as of now
    LT Dillard
    LG Bolles / (2020 draft pick)
    OC Bradbury / Falah / Jones
    RG McCoy / (re-sign McGovern?)
    RT James / Knappe

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    Denver waived Andreas Knappe yesterday. So, there are nine O-Linemen on the roster about a week before the Draft. They will need at least fifteen for TC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by samparnell View Post
    Denver waived Andreas Knappe yesterday. So, there are nine O-Linemen on the roster about a week before the Draft. They will need at least fifteen for TC.
    Theyíll likely draft 1 or 2. Then I would think they would fill the remaining needed for camp with undrafted free agents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samparnell View Post
    Denver waived Andreas Knappe yesterday. So, there are nine O-Linemen on the roster about a week before the Draft. They will need at least fifteen for TC.
    Is it completely out of the question to think they could trade back while aiming for Garret Bradbury? Thatís what Iíd like to see.

    Forget Devin White or Devon Bush and trade back, draft Bradbury while picking up another second and aim for a DE/ DT in the second and maybe fill a void with Darron Lee.

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