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Originally posted by DenverBlood View PostAvalanche get one in Calgary!!!
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Originally posted by gerontion View PostAs a die hard Avs fan I gotta say it will go at least 6, especially after that epic game 2 overtime win. All the pressure is on Calgary. Avs, meanwhile, should be loose after scratching and clawing their way into the playoffs after they looked dead in the water. You never know. I mean, look at what Columbus is doing to Tampa. Being the underdog can have its advantages.
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Originally posted by Butler By'Note View PostPenguins are down 3-0. Not shocked, I thought the Isles would win that series. A lot of people giving the Pens credit for 2 years ago and not looking at who the team is now.
In comes Trotz, and suddenly The Islanders become relevant again! His system was adopted very nicely and turned them around. They are now a real threat.
Ha ha....doesn't hurt that he's a grown in Manitoba product!
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Originally posted by CanDB View PostBarry Trotz is a fabulous coach! He led Washington to a Stanley Cup, took a year off, and returned to the NHL to a team that just lost a stud in John Tavares. Not to mention they finished under 500 in 17/18. The future looked ominous.
In comes Trotz, and suddenly The Islanders become relevant again! His system was adopted very nicely and turned them around. They are now a real threat.
Ha ha....doesn't hurt that he's a grown in Manitoba product!
And the Lightning are now 1 minute away from being down 3-0. This might be the biggest upset in the NHL playoffs in the last 30 years.
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Originally posted by Butler By'Note View PostNo year off, he went straight from Washington to the Island.
And the Lightning are now 1 minute away from being down 3-0. This might be the biggest upset in the NHL playoffs in the last 30 years.
Regardless...Trotz is a fab coach!
Can't believe Tampa....I mean, at least make it a series!
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Originally posted by Butler By'Note View PostNo year off, he went straight from Washington to the Island.
And the Lightning are now 1 minute away from being down 3-0. This might be the biggest upset in the NHL playoffs in the last 30 years.
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Originally posted by CanDB View PostOMG....you are right! Not even sure what I was thinking given Washington just won the cup last year! Last I remembered was that he was thinking of taking a year off. But thx for that.
Regardless...Trotz is a fab coach!
Can't believe Tampa....I mean, at least make it a series!
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I know Butler called it with the pressure thing but I’m still really stunned by Tampa.
I figured the pressure would be felt in a later round and a year ending in disappointment with a second round loss or a conference finals loss.
In no shape or form did I see the pressure being this bad against Columbus in the first round.
Just another reason why hockey is better than the NBA. In the NBA 8 seeds can’t hang and first round upsets are very rare.sigpic
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Originally posted by DenverBlood View PostI know Butler called it with the pressure thing but I’m still really stunned by Tampa.
I figured the pressure would be felt in a later round and a year ending in disappointment with a second round loss or a conference finals loss.
In no shape or form did I see the pressure being this bad against Columbus in the first round.
Just another reason why hockey is better than the NBA. In the NBA 8 seeds can’t hang and first round upsets are very rare.
Same goes in The NHL to a point....some teams will have more talent, or balance, or goaltending. But you typically need 4 forward lines, and 3 D combos, plus a goalie, to win. Yes, you can play with one less 'line' of each, for a period of time, but not usually in a 60 minute game.
But the key is, a good coach can impact a game, and journeymen players can max out their effectiveness, by going full bore, in a disciplined manner....and if they play the game right, they can contribute on the scoreboard. You can minimize star players. It's a hard, fast game....and often the team that wants it more, can win. You will see star players blocking shots, and playing a defensive role as required. It's a mindset. And yes, a salary cap in a sport with this many players tends to help balance talent.
Plus there is always that element of opportunism, when you cash in a key goal or two, because the chances may be limited in what becomes more defensive style hockey.
But as I mentioned, you need a coach that can implement good systems, and win over the locker room, along with a team that understands the meaning of courage and "team first". And it never hurts to have a hot goalie....which is something that can often change the outcome of any series.Last edited by CanDB; 04-15-2019, 07:26 AM.
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Originally posted by CanDB View PostGood point about NBA vs NHL. I am a BB fan, but when I see a team loaded like GS, with only 5 players on the court, and able to play a good chunk of the game, I am not as excited....ha ha, especially if I am not a fan of the stacked team! Sure, opposing coaches can dream up the best strategy imaginable, but if a player can down 3 pointers from almost anywhere, or a guy is 10 feet tall (just an example), you are limited in how you defend.
Same goes in The NHL to a point....some teams will have more talent, or balance, or goaltending. But you typically need 4 forward lines, and 3 D combos, plus a goalie, to win. Yes, you can play with one less 'line' of each, for a period of time, but not usually in a 60 minute game.
But the key is, a good coach can impact a game, and journeymen players can max out their effectiveness, by going full bore, in a disciplined manner....and if they play the game right, they can contribute on the scoreboard. You can minimize star players. It's a hard, fast game....and often the team that wants it more, can win. You will see star players blocking shots, and playing a defensive role as required. It's a mindset. And yes, a salary cap in a sport with this many players tends to help balance talent.
Plus there is always that element of opportunism, when you cash in a key goal or two, because the chances may be limited in what becomes more defensive style hockey.
But as I mentioned, you need a coach that can implement good systems, and win over the locker room, along with a team that understands the meaning of courage and "team first". And it never hurts to have a hot goalie....which is something that can often change the outcome of any series.
So often a team can completely dominate a game for 60 minutes but if they are unsuccessful solving that goaltender they can still come away in a loss.
In Basketball there is no such thing as the #1 seed playing their A game and losing. But it can happen in hockey. Sometimes all the under dog has to do is play great D and get a stalemate and once it gets to Ot all you need is that one opportunistic play to steal a game that you may have been outshot and outchecked by nearly double in. It’s obviously not the strategy you recommend over the course of a series but it can be done.
I don’t have stats but I don’t believe an 8 seed has won an NBA series in over a decade. NHL seems to have it done very 2-3 years if not more often.sigpic
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