Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 17
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Posts
    164

    2019 rare draft prospects.

    Who are the unique or rare players in this years draft. Not necessarily the best players, but the players who physical numbers arenít common. Letís say you have to go back 3+ classes to find another player similar.

    Hakeem Butler WR Iowa State- Not many 6í5 1/2Ē WRís period. Let alone running 4.49.

    Ed Oliver DT Houston- 280lbs, High 4.7- Low 4.8 speed. Special burst.

    Dexter Lawerence DT Clemson- Just a pure mountain at 350+ pounds. But extremely athletic for that size. Havenít seen that combo since Terrance Cody?

    Noah Fant TE Iowa- 4.50 40. 40Ē vert with great SS and 3cone drills. A lot of the past elite TEís were high 4.5- low 4.6.

    Obviously there are more, who are they in this class. Again players with numbers you donít find every year. As good as a player as someone like Nick Bosa is, there is players in other classes similar testing.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Huntsville, AL
    Posts
    16,660
    Wasn’t Terrance Cody a big bust at that size?

  3. #3
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    FORT COLLINS COLORADO
    Posts
    7,668
    Quote Originally Posted by kerkhoff1 View Post
    Who are the unique or rare players in this years draft. Not necessarily the best players, but the players who physical numbers arenít common. Letís say you have to go back 3+ classes to find another player similar.

    Hakeem Butler WR Iowa State- Not many 6í5 1/2Ē WRís period. Let alone running 4.49.

    Ed Oliver DT Houston- 280lbs, High 4.7- Low 4.8 speed. Special burst.

    Dexter Lawerence DT Clemson- Just a pure mountain at 350+ pounds. But extremely athletic for that size. Havenít seen that combo since Terrance Cody?

    Noah Fant TE Iowa- 4.50 40. 40Ē vert with great SS and 3cone drills. A lot of the past elite TEís were high 4.5- low 4.6.

    Obviously there are more, who are they in this class. Again players with numbers you donít find every year. As good as a player as someone like Nick Bosa is, there is players in other classes similar testing.
    Fant isn't even the best TE in this draft, yet alone a super elite prospect. his blocking is meh. you have to work him outside to be effective. he is a prime example as a bust candidate. great athelete but i would have liked to see him be more dominate. and it si not like Stanley is a bad QB.

    oakland raders gm
    latavis murray trade bait

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Las Manzanitas, NM
    Posts
    30,913
    Jalen Hurd is an interesting prospect from from Baylor. He is a WR with RB as second position and could project to H-Back as well. He is 6'5" 228 and runs the 40 in the 4.6 range. He might be available as an UDFA and would need some coaching having played several spots in college.
    "Stultum est timere quod vitare non potes." ~ Publilius Syrus

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Colorado
    Posts
    21,117
    Quote Originally Posted by kerkhoff1 View Post
    Who are the unique or rare players in this years draft. Not necessarily the best players, but the players who physical numbers aren’t common. Let’s say you have to go back 3+ classes to find another player similar.

    Hakeem Butler WR Iowa State- Not many 6’5 1/2” WR’s period. Let alone running 4.49.

    Ed Oliver DT Houston- 280lbs, High 4.7- Low 4.8 speed. Special burst.

    Dexter Lawerence DT Clemson- Just a pure mountain at 350+ pounds. But extremely athletic for that size. Haven’t seen that combo since Terrance Cody?

    Noah Fant TE Iowa- 4.50 40. 40” vert with great SS and 3cone drills. A lot of the past elite TE’s were high 4.5- low 4.6.

    Obviously there are more, who are they in this class. Again players with numbers you don’t find every year. As good as a player as someone like Nick Bosa is, there is players in other classes similar testing.
    Sutton Smith. OLB, 3 cone of 6.75

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Posts
    1,707
    Quote Originally Posted by kerkhoff1 View Post
    Who are the unique or rare players in this years draft. Not necessarily the best players, but the players who physical numbers arenít common. Letís say you have to go back 3+ classes to find another player similar.

    Hakeem Butler WR Iowa State- Not many 6í5 1/2Ē WRís period. Let alone running 4.49.

    Ed Oliver DT Houston- 280lbs, High 4.7- Low 4.8 speed. Special burst.

    Dexter Lawerence DT Clemson- Just a pure mountain at 350+ pounds. But extremely athletic for that size. Havenít seen that combo since Terrance Cody?

    Noah Fant TE Iowa- 4.50 40. 40Ē vert with great SS and 3cone drills. A lot of the past elite TEís were high 4.5- low 4.6.

    Obviously there are more, who are they in this class. Again players with numbers you donít find every year. As good as a player as someone like Nick Bosa is, there is players in other classes similar testing.
    Good topic. I like the debate topic

    I am not sure I think this is the best list of ďrare prospectsĒ

    I agree with Oliver but the other athletes not so much

    Vita Vea from last year is very similar to Decter Lawrence

    2017 TE prospects Djoku and Engram seem to be as good if not better athletes than Fant

    Hakeem Butler IMO isnít nearly as rare as DJ Metcalf, who while shorter has a longer wingspan, big hands, and better test results.

    If I was going with a rare athlete list it would be

    Oliver, Metcalf, and Sweat

    I doubt Sweat and Metcalf will be superstars but rarely do we see the combination of measurables and test results they put up

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Posts
    164
    The thread isnít about best prospects or ones that may or not be bust. Just prospects with very unique traits.

    DK Metcalf most definitely qualifies 6í3Ē and 4.33 is very very rare.

    Agreed Fant probably doesnít qualify bc Ingram has very similar Numbers.

    Still think Butler is considered fairly rare bc of 6í5 1/2Ē not many that tall.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Posts
    1,707
    I get the point of the thread. I guess it depends on how you count rare. Jordan Taylor and Courtland Sutton are almost as tall as Butler. Not to mention Justin Hunter, Kelvin Benjamin, Devon Funchess, Mike Evans, AJ Green, St Brown, Martaveous Bryant and these are the guys with pretty similar size speed ratios. There are another 5-10 guys at least that are taller but just donít have the speed or overall polish as Butler.

    My main point is that this year has a lot of big WRs and Butler has great potential but I wouldnít rate him as a rare prospect bringing something terribly unique. But we can disagree easily and have it be a matter of perspective

    For my two cents if we draft a tall WR I prefer Arcega Whiteside in round 4. He is not quite as tall but that basketball pedigree is impressive

    Like I said before, I love the topic even though we disagree a little

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Posts
    164
    Quote Originally Posted by myoung View Post
    I get the point of the thread. I guess it depends on how you count rare. Jordan Taylor and Courtland Sutton are almost as tall as Butler. Not to mention Justin Hunter, Kelvin Benjamin, Devon Funchess, Mike Evans, AJ Green, St Brown, Martaveous Bryant and these are the guys with pretty similar size speed ratios. There are another 5-10 guys at least that are taller but just donít have the speed or overall polish as Butler.

    My main point is that this year has a lot of big WRs and Butler has great potential but I wouldnít rate him as a rare prospect bringing something terribly unique. But we can disagree easily and have it be a matter of perspective

    For my two cents if we draft a tall WR I prefer Arcega Whiteside in round 4. He is not quite as tall but that basketball pedigree is impressive

    Like I said before, I love the topic even though we disagree a little
    I hear you. There is a lot of very tall WR. But none that are a legit 6í5 1/2Ē 230 lbs 84Ē wingspan. With 10 3/4 arms. Running a 4.49.

    Iím not saying heís the best prospect, Iím just saying players with those measurements are very very hard to find. Plaxico Burress being the last one? More than likely?

    Mike Evans is very very close but over 3 years ago.
    Last edited by kerkhoff1; 04-21-2019 at 08:12 PM.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    the gulf of mexico
    Posts
    15,505
    Quote Originally Posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
    Sutton Smith. OLB, 3 cone of 6.75
    One of my favorite late round prospects. Insane production the past 2 years and an incredible burst at the snap. Too small to ever be a starting OLB. Although I think he could be a quality specialist or a team with some patience may try to make an ILB out of him which is probably what Iíd do and still use him as a situational pass rusher whether it be blitzing at ILB or coming off the edge.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    FORT COLLINS COLORADO
    Posts
    7,668
    what about Rashan Gary. if you want to talk about freaks 4.58 at 278

    oakland raders gm
    latavis murray trade bait

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Northern California
    Posts
    3,913
    The QB turned WR, David Sills, is going to be in this draft. His measurables are laughable but I'd bet on his intangibles. I wouldn't be upset if the Broncos grabbed him with a 5th rounder.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    the treasure valley, Idaho
    Posts
    16,012
    Quote Originally Posted by DenverBlood View Post
    Wasnít Terrance Cody a big bust at that size?
    He could play football, but unfortunately ate his way out of the league.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Colorado
    Posts
    21,117
    Quote Originally Posted by beastlyskronk View Post
    One of my favorite late round prospects. Insane production the past 2 years and an incredible burst at the snap. Too small to ever be a starting OLB. Although I think he could be a quality specialist or a team with some patience may try to make an ILB out of him which is probably what I’d do and still use him as a situational pass rusher whether it be blitzing at ILB or coming off the edge.
    for us probably. Not in other schemes though. He is about same size was Woodyard and Lavonte David. He could also possibly move to ILB

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Ft. Lewis, Washington
    Posts
    3,513
    Quote Originally Posted by DenverBlood View Post
    Wasn’t Terrance Cody a big bust at that size?
    Cody was just a giant, runstopping plug. But Lawerence can do A LOT, and I know we aren't suppose to look so much into how they graded coming out of High School, but the guy was ranked as high as 2nd on some recruiting classes. He may have benefited from a spectacularly assembled Clemson D, but he still produced on the field. If it wasn't for his suspension and type of position he plays, I could see him going top 15. Hell he still might, but he would definitely be a guy I would be monitoring if he fell to late first for us to trade up and get. I know we would lose a third, but I really like him, especially for the NT that Fangio seems to utilize.
    New England Patriots GM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •