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    Two words, Patrick Mahomes. Jones is great a disrupting the pocket moving the QB to the DE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarshallMoss View Post

    That's a big gap between 1st and 2nd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humberg View Post
    Yeah, if Wolfe gets released it would be financial, not football related. Depends what happens with the Chris Harris situation. It might come down to who they want more, Wolfe or Harris because you can't pay everyone.

    If Jones plays lights out its Walker who would be on notice. Jones will compete opposite Wolfe and switch inside on nickel just like Walker.
    I agree to an extent but I do think itís Wolfe That would be put on notice.

    The only reason I say this, is because we still have walker on a rookie contract. Why get rid of somebody that you can keep on the roster for a few more years at Little to no pay when compared to Wolfe who will be a free agent next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_Z View Post
    I agree to an extent but I do think itís Wolfe That would be put on notice.

    The only reason I say this, is because we still have walker on a rookie contract. Why get rid of somebody that you can keep on the roster for a few more years at Little to no pay when compared to Wolfe who will be a free agent next season.
    I donít think you do that if the guy your keeping isnít good enough to get on the field

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    Jones has potential but I donít see much difference between him and Walker when he came out. Both of them got washed out in the run game from the interior especially if they didnít get to shoot a gap. Both of them stalled out as a pass rusher if their swim or rip move didnít work and if the Center helped out they were a non factor.

    If Jones works on his anchor and pass rushing repertoire as well as getting a stronger anchor heíll be fine, just like Walker. Although I think Walker does play with better leverage.

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    Remember people have to find something wrong with a NFL draft prospect. He was 2nd on the team with 13 TFL at tOSU last year. PFF had him as a 1st round pick at the end of the season, but then teams seem to forget what happened on the field and get caught up with combine hype. His numbers were close to Wolfe's BTW.

    He's not Shane Ray bad at the POA. He'll put on weight and that will help with absorbing blocks. I'm pretty sure the new coach is pretty damn good at accessing DL talent.

    Quote Originally Posted by beastlyskronk View Post
    Jones has potential but I don’t see much difference between him and Walker when he came out. Both of them got washed out in the run game from the interior especially if they didn’t get to shoot a gap. Both of them stalled out as a pass rusher if their swim or rip move didn’t work and if the Center helped out they were a non factor.

    If Jones works on his anchor and pass rushing repertoire as well as getting a stronger anchor he’ll be fine, just like Walker. Although I think Walker does play with better leverage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
    Fant and Risner will have little competition. Jones will be in a competition with Wolfe, Gotsis, Walker, Maybe Kerr and/or Harris. He will have to show that he can hold up in the run game before he will be an every down player. I wouldn't count on him beating out Wolfe. Wolfe is stronger, and I think, more athletic. I think Jones is quicker but I don't think that is enough to outplay Wolfe his rookie year. Maybe next year though.
    I agree with your thoughts here. I do also agree that Jones is a beast, but you've got the right thought. Jones has a lot of veteran competition. Fant and Risner don't. They are basically going to win their jobs just by showing up healthy. It's going to take them playing very poorly to not see significant play time. Jones, despite all his abilities will likely be a rotational player this year, starter next year.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckeye Bronco View Post
    Remember people have to find something wrong with a NFL draft prospect. He was 2nd on the team with 13 TFL at tOSU last year. PFF had him as a 1st round pick at the end of the season, but then teams seem to forget what happened on the field and get caught up with combine hype. His numbers were close to Wolfe's BTW.

    He's not Shane Ray bad at the POA. He'll put on weight and that will help with absorbing blocks. I'm pretty sure the new coach is pretty damn good at accessing DL talent.
    13 TFL but college includes sacks into that category. Iím not saying heís bad or wonít develop, Demarcus Walker was a 2nd round pick for a reason so I donít even think itís a bad comparison for him. I still think Walker can be what we drafted him to be, if you extrapolate his numbers per snap he has a high amount of production. Unfortunately for whatever reason the coaching staff wouldnít give him a chance to sustain those numbers. Maybe heís a bad practice player, maybe he got into it with the coaches, but heís flashed when heís played at his natural position.

    Iím just saying that Jones may not be that interior pocket collapser that he can be his rookie year. Dlinemen take time to develop and Walker has been here developing under one of the best coaches in the game. Granted if heís in Kollarís doghouse then it wonít matter much and he will likely be cut.

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    scouting report on Jones, includes short video clips

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor View Post
    I donít think you do that if the guy your keeping isnít good enough to get on the field
    Of course not but we have to find out if Fangio can make a difference with him or not.

    I guess could we may already know the results there because heís had Bill Kollar all this time!
    Last edited by Sam_Z; 04-29-2019 at 01:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_Z View Post
    Of course not but we have to find out if Fangio can make a difference with him or not.
    Our D line isnít very deep. Iíd be shocked if Wolfe was cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beastlyskronk View Post
    13 TFL but college includes sacks into that category. Iím not saying heís bad or wonít develop, Demarcus Walker was a 2nd round pick for a reason so I donít even think itís a bad comparison for him. I still think Walker can be what we drafted him to be, if you extrapolate his numbers per snap he has a high amount of production. Unfortunately for whatever reason the coaching staff wouldnít give him a chance to sustain those numbers. Maybe heís a bad practice player, maybe he got into it with the coaches, but heís flashed when heís played at his natural position.

    Iím just saying that Jones may not be that interior pocket collapser that he can be his rookie year. Dlinemen take time to develop and Walker has been here developing under one of the best coaches in the game. Granted if heís in Kollarís doghouse then it wonít matter much and he will likely be cut.
    Not a fair comparison because they never even gave walker a chance because he couldnt play special teams and messed with his weight.

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    You know what it crazy...

    Dre'Mont Jones:
    https://www.nfl.com/prospects/dre%27...d-a05e4abae41c

    vs.

    Aaron Donald:
    http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/...ald?id=2543485


    Aaron was top in 3/6 categories for his position. He has better numbers in every category than Jones, yet was graded at 5.35 and 4-5 round projection. Jones is graded at 5.81 2-3 round pick. The only thing I can think of is he went and performed at a bigger school. Pittsburgh vs OSU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor View Post
    Our D line isn’t very deep. I’d be shocked if Wolfe was cut.
    they are pretty deep at DE with Wolfe, Gotsis, Walker, Kerr, and Jones. They have a couple just listed as Dline. They have less at NT with just Shelby listed there so far. I wouldn't be surprised to see some switching of positions from DE/DL to NT. Kerr and Purcell are players that I would guess are assigned to NT positions. Purcell was with Fangio in SF back in 2013 and 2014.

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    Quote Originally Posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
    they are pretty deep at DE with Wolfe, Gotsis, Walker, Kerr, and Jones. They have a couple just listed as Dline. They have less at NT with just Shelby listed there so far. I wouldn't be surprised to see some switching of positions from DE/DL to NT. Kerr and Purcell are players that I would guess are assigned to NT positions. Purcell was with Fangio in SF back in 2013 and 2014.
    I think youíre using the term deep loosely here

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