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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgobronco View Post
    Your last point is the key one. Inside pressure is needed for Von and Chubb to excel. It’s been missing, so teams can move more people to the edge or scheme to allow the edge rush upfield while sliding the pocket forward. That’s generally true for this thread. Great pash rushes come from more than 2 players.
    we should also include ability of the DBs to cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
    we should also include ability of the DBs to cover.
    Exactly, if our corners are so bad they have to play ten yards off weíll never get to the quarterback

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    The notion Von and Chubb are best ever is embarrassing. They have one year.

    Off the top of my head:
    -Deacon Jones and Merlin Olsen
    -Alan Page and Carl Eller (and Jim Marshall)
    -Derrick Thomas and Neil Smith

    And I am sure there are ten others. Show us for several years!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiddyupGetEm View Post
    The notion Von and Chubb are best ever is embarrassing. They have one year.

    Off the top of my head:
    -Deacon Jones and Merlin Olsen
    -Alan Page and Carl Eller (and Jim Marshall)
    -Derrick Thomas and Neil Smith

    And I am sure there are ten others. Show us for several years!
    What else is embarrassing is commenting without reading the discussion

    The OP was a video that shrager predicts it they will become

    Nobody is saying they are right now

  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgobronco View Post
    Your last point is the key one. Inside pressure is needed for Von and Chubb to excel. Itís been missing, so teams can move more people to the edge or scheme to allow the edge rush upfield while sliding the pocket forward. Thatís generally true for this thread. Great pash rushes come from more than 2 players.
    yea the more I watched film of how outside pass rushers are blocked I start to understand why inside pass rushers get more double teams. Once a pass rushers has shown the ability to beat the one vs one pretty much only way to stop inside guys is to double team them while there are other options for outside pass rushers.

    Once a defense has shown the ability to wreck an offense from the inside it really opens up the outside guys to shine bright.
    Vic Fangio "Von Miller can play better than he has ever played in his career"
    Preventing Death by Inches

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    Quote Originally Posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
    we should also include ability of the DBs to cover.
    That's an extremely valid point. If we're going to do well in pass rush this year, our corners have to be on their game. We need Chris Harris here this year or you can forget about the pass rush being anything special.


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    I think Dwight Freeny and Robert Mathis were pretty darn good....

    I also think in 2 or 3 years we will be including Von and Chubb, but not yet


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