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    Kiszla: Why John Elway has done Vic Fangio no favors during new coach’s brief tenure

    https://www.denverpost.com/2019/05/1...os-kiszla/amp/

    On mobile so if anyone can properly link this please do so. Anyways, these guys must really have all the optimism in the world if they think this team's gonna bottom out.

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    Like everyone else, Kizla is entitled to his opinion except in his case it's published in Colorado's leading newspaper. I've not seen much in the past to indicate he understands football/football teams. He seems more like an opinionated, gossipy rumor monger. His unveiled biases preclude his ability to be an objective reporter.

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    All this was, was hate filled drivel by a dude who apparently dislikes John. I don't mind reading actual facts that may point out some of John's mistakes, but not paying chris Harris, is not one of them. Harris is not worth 10 mil, let alone 15 mil a season. good riddance once he's gone.

    john has the good of the team on his mind not just one player's ego. He held stiff with Von too, sure he paid him a ton, but not near what Von was asking for, if he had we would be in cap hell all for one player.

    this piece was absolute garbage no facts just opinion and hate mongering...
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    Remember his job isn't to accurately report on the Broncos but to get clicks from people to read his articles.

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    Kiszla is a steaming turd in the world of sports "reporting".
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    Quote Originally Posted by samparnell View Post
    Like everyone else, Kizla is entitled to his opinion except in his case it's published in Colorado's leading newspaper. I've not seen much in the past to indicate he understands football/football teams. He seems more like an opinionated, gossipy rumor monger. His unveiled biases preclude his ability to be an objective reporter.
    Kiszla is very simply a "formula" Sports Writer. Every city has the "contrarian" Sports Writer who takes whatever is closest to home fan's hearts, and attacks it.. Denver has had many. Woody Paige played the roll for a while. Anybody remember TJ Simers? He had a stint in Denver, and there are many more. Reminds me of when Joe Williams joined Irv Brown on that early Sports Talk show. Remember when Joe was leading the charge to trade John Elway for Eric Dickerson? Several people on this Board would have backed that move in a heartbeat. Throwing a "hand grenade" into a discussiont stirs up people. Very similar to the Trolls who appear to have found safe haven on this board. It get's more Posts, more responses, and better ratings for this Message Board. And that (money) is what it's all about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duhyaj View Post
    All this was, was hate filled drivel by a dude who apparently dislikes John. I don't mind reading actual facts that may point out some of John's mistakes, but not paying chris Harris, is not one of them. Harris is not worth 10 mil, let alone 15 mil a season. good riddance once he's gone.

    john has the good of the team on his mind not just one player's ego. He held stiff with Von too, sure he paid him a ton, but not near what Von was asking for, if he had we would be in cap hell all for one player.

    this piece was absolute garbage no facts just opinion and hate mongering...
    But how do you really feel?

    So how much is Harris worth?


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    I don't see exactly how Elway has done Vic no favors ...... That's the main headline to be derived from all the points he made in his article? Smells like click bait

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    Ward was traded the year after the average fan watching Broncos games seen up close that he lost a step or two. Did this effect the defense the following year? Everyone has their own opinion.

    Now, we face another situation with Chris Harris. Has he lost a step ? Don't think so. Do we need this pro-bowler in the secondary ? I believe so.

    As for the article, maybe we need someone to create a controversy so a subject can be discussed in Forums. Personally Most writers just want to be recognized whether stories are true or just speculation, it;s all about the Headline.

    If the money is there, why not? He does solidify the secondary and will make it an exciting season. Sometimes the Veteran has some intangibles that he brings to the team that far outshines one ego's.

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    Kizla is a worm..................
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    I wish the article would have been posted here.

    I feel dirty for even clicking the link now

    What a horribly written piece of garbage that is obviously trying to paint a negative picture just to get clicks.

    I may not click on another link for the website until that guy is gone.
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    Does everyone still fill the same now that we are 0-2 and most likely will be 0-3 after Green Bay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddletramp View Post
    Does everyone still fill the same now that we are 0-2 and most likely will be 0-3 after Green Bay?
    I still stand by my comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddletramp View Post
    Does everyone still fill the same now that we are 0-2 and most likely will be 0-3 after Green Bay?
    That Mark Kizla is an Elway Hate Mongerer who crawled out from underneath a rock just to see if he could make some money off of Elways name by spewing trash............ Yep , I still feel the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL BRONCO View Post
    That Mark Kizla is an Elway Hate Mongerer who crawled out from underneath a rock just to see if he could make some money off of Elways name by spewing trash............ Yep , I still feel the same.
    *owes FL cp.....
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