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    NFL teams ranked by their franchise QBs (NFL.com)

    It's the offseason so here's a list of teams ranked by the franchise QBs during their history.

    After a grueling deep dive into each NFL team's history to identify their franchise QBs of the common-draft era, there's only one reasonable thing left to do: rank 'em! As a reminder, only pro quarterbacks who started at least 48 games with a team since 1967 were eligible for consideration. Each passer who met that minimum threshold also needed to satisfy two of the following three requirements:

    1) Winning regular-season record.
    2) Minimum passer rating of 75.0.
    3) At least one Pro Bowl selection.

    And just so we're all operating under the same parameters, note that Pro Bowl totals below include AFL All-Star Game selections, while Super Bowl ring totals only include titles won as the team's starting quarterback.

    Enough with the rules. Let's go!
    For the regular or semi-regular smackers here:

    Bears were 31st... no surprise as they're know for their defense and Sweetness. The article was written by a Bears fan.

    Chargers were 10th, Raiders were 7th, Patriots were 6th, Broncos were 5th.

    Raiders surprisingly had the most number of QBs that fit the criteria. (6)

    The Packers would've been #1 if Bart Starr was eligible.

    Do you agree with the list or at the very least do you agree with the Top 10?

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    I actually thought it was well thought out.., ya it’s smack so I thought the pats were too high...only one Super Bowl QB...and he’s a confirmed cheater

    And the raiders do have a very good qb history, , , as well as the cowboys,,

    Can’t beat Montana/young combo in San Fran...
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    Quote Originally Posted by EddieMac View Post
    I actually thought it was well thought out.., ya it’s smack so I thought the pats were too high...only one Super Bowl QB...and he’s a confirmed cheater

    And the raiders do have a very good qb history, , , as well as the cowboys,,

    Can’t beat Montana/young combo in San Fran...
    Aside from New England I think the list is pretty accurate. Itís hard to beat the cowgirls as well and mainly because of Aikman and Staubach but thatís ok because those guys were legends.

    Iím in no way a Dallas fan but Iím a fan of great players.

    Peyton Manning (2012-15): 57 starts | 45-12 | 3 Pro Bowls | 101.7 passer rating | 1 MVP | 1 SB ring
    -- Jake Plummer (2003-06): 54 starts | 39-15 | 1 Pro Bowl | 84.3 passer rating
    -- Brian Griese (1998-2002): 51 starts | 26-24 | 1 Pro Bowl | 84.1 passer rating
    -- John Elway (1983-1998): 231 starts | 148-82-1 | 9 Pro Bowls | 79.9 passer rating | 1 MVP | 2 SB rings
    -- Craig Morton (1977-1982): 64 starts | 41-23 | 0 Pro Bowls | 79.1 passer rating
    Looking at that list, itís hard to ignore the numbers Griese put up.

    He was a very bright QB, however he didnít seem to have much physical talent. Iíve always said had he had Plummers athleticism he wouldíve been great.

    Anyway witn the additions of Flacco and Lock Iím expecting Denver to catapult to the top of that list while Planet ass falls down significantly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_Z View Post
    Aside from New England I think the list is pretty accurate. Itís hard to beat the cowgirls as well and mainly because of Aikman and Staubach but thatís ok because those guys were legends.

    Iím in no way a Dallas fan but Iím a fan of great players.


    Looking at that list, itís hard to ignore the numbers Griese put up.

    He was a very bright QB, however he didnít seem to have much physical talent. Iíve always said had he had Plummers athleticism he wouldíve been great.

    Anyway witn the additions of Flacco and Lock Iím expecting Denver to catapult to the top of that list while Planet ass falls down significantly!
    Itís easy to ignore Grieseís numbers for me. He did nothing in the postseason.
    Elway won 5 conference titles and back to back Superbowls.

    Peyton 2 conference titles and a Super-bowl

    Plummer ended the Patriots three peat bid in 2005 postseason.

    Griese was your typical put up nice numbers once guy ( Scott Mitchell, Matt Flynn, Case Keenum)

    What I remember best about Griese is his dog tripping story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 58Miller View Post
    Itís easy to ignore Grieseís numbers for me. He did nothing in the postseason.
    Elway won 5 conference titles and back to back Superbowls.

    Peyton 2 conference titles and a Super-bowl

    Plummer ended the Patriots three peat bid in 2005 postseason.

    Griese was your typical put up nice numbers once guy ( Scott Mitchell, Matt Flynn, Case Keenum)

    What I remember best about Griese is his dog tripping story.
    Iím by no means over praising his efforts lol it was his INT that basically sent TD into early retirement however had he had more athleticism I think he would had been a far better QB.

    I wouldnt put him in the same category as case Keesum because he at least had a winning record under Shanahan and Of course that was all Shanahan and Portis however with exception to 2012, Shanahan didn't have a winning record in Washington.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_Z View Post
    I’m by no means over praising his efforts lol it was his INT that basically sent TD into early retirement however had he had more athleticism I think he would had been a far better QB.

    I wouldnt put him in the same category as case Keesum because he at least had a winning record under Shanahan and Of course that was all Shanahan and Portis however with exception to 2012, Shanahan didn't have a winning record in Washington.


    I always thought griese could have become a legite qb, but he and Elway were two complete opposites, Elway the mobile, big armed qb who could avoid the rush, move out of the pocket, an griese a typical pocket sloth qb, accurate but a pocket qb

    with the broncos then forcing the square peg of Griese into the offense designed for the round peg after elway retired

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_Z View Post
    Iím by no means over praising his efforts lol it was his INT that basically sent TD into early retirement however had he had more athleticism I think he would had been a far better QB.

    I wouldnt put him in the same category as case Keesum because he at least had a winning record under Shanahan and Of course that was all Shanahan and Portis however with exception to 2012, Shanahan didn't have a winning record in Washington.
    Keenum did win a playoff game, guess it depends on what impresses a person. Griese went 4-9 his first year ( surrounded by a back to back Super Bowl wining roster and coach) then put up nice numbers against a last place schedule.
    I think of Griese the same as Ferotte, Cuter, and Orton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 58Miller View Post
    Keenum did win a playoff game, guess it depends on what impresses a person. Griese went 4-9 his first year ( surrounded by a back to back Super Bowl wining roster and coach) then put up nice numbers against a last place schedule.
    I think of Griese the same as Ferotte, Cuter, and Orton.
    grieses first year was ALSO in the year we lost a NFL MVP 2000 yard RB with 21 rushing tds in his forth game
    where we went from 2468 rushing team yards, 26 rushing tds and 154.2 YPG in 1998
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    1864 13 tds, 116.5 YPG

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    Quote Originally Posted by arapaho View Post
    grieses first year was ALSO in the year we lost a NFL MVP 2000 yard RB with 21 rushing tds in his forth game
    where we went from 2468 rushing team yards, 26 rushing tds and 154.2 YPG in 1998
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    1864 13 tds, 116.5 YPG
    Very true, Griese threw a pick and TD injured on the tackle. Losing a MVP offensive weapon.

    Also trie Denver with TD was 0-4 when he went down.
    TD was having a tough time cause teams were filling the box because they didnít respect Griese beating them.


    TD through 4 games that year 211 yards in 67 carries (3.1 yac) 2 tds

    His replacement had a good year:
    Olandis Gary filled in for him with 1,159 yds and 7 tds in 12 games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilSpawn View Post
    It's the offseason so here's a list of teams ranked by the franchise QBs during their history.



    For the regular or semi-regular smackers here:

    Bears were 31st... no surprise as they're know for their defense and Sweetness. The article was written by a Bears fan.

    Chargers were 10th, Raiders were 7th, Patriots were 6th, Broncos were 5th.

    Raiders surprisingly had the most number of QBs that fit the criteria. (6)

    The Packers would've been #1 if Bart Starr was eligible.

    Do you agree with the list or at the very least do you agree with the Top 10?
    I totally agree with where the Bears are ranked. For a franchise that could bring in some of the greatest RB's in NFL history, we were just inept at finding a QB to go along with them. Closest we came was Payton/McMahon.

    With Trubisky though I think this may change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bears6385 View Post
    I totally agree with where the Bears are ranked. For a franchise that could bring in some of the greatest RB's in NFL history, we were just inept at finding a QB to go along with them. Closest we came was Payton/McMahon.

    With Trubisky though I think this may change.
    I understand your desire for a top rusher first and foremost however Iím still waiting to see Coach Shanahan Senior hired to coach a team with a top 8 QB.

    When that happens look out!

    Just something to think about!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_Z View Post
    I understand your desire for a top rusher first and foremost however I’m still waiting to see Coach Shanahan Senior hired to coach a team with a top 8 QB.

    When that happens look out!

    Just something to think about!
    Hopefully Nagy will bring that out in Trubisky. In year two of Nagy's offense and Mitch takes the next step, then the sky's the limit for this team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bears6385 View Post
    Hopefully Nagy will bring that out in Trubisky. In year two of Nagy's offense and Mitch takes the next step, then the sky's the limit for this team.
    Iím actually pretty excited to see how the bears fare In the next couple of seasons. The NFC needs a true consistent powerhouse.

    However with Kubiak in Minnesota with Kirk Cousins and that offensive line, it just may spell some huge headaches for their opponents the next few seasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_Z View Post
    I’m actually pretty excited to see how the bears fare In the next couple of seasons. The NFC needs a true consistent powerhouse.

    However with Kubiak in Minnesota with Kirk Cousins and that offensive line, it just may spell some huge headaches for their opponents the next few seasons.
    I don't take the Vikings lightly but Cousins still has a lot to prove. In his career 4-25 against teams with winning records while going to the playoffs just once. He has to own that record, improve on it to earn that huge contract Minny gave him.

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