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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by arapaho View Post
    https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2019...fc-west-title/

    Theyíll hail the Chargersí offseason acquisitions as superior. Theyíll call Philip Rivers an ageless wonder. Yet thereís one team in the AFC West that improved in an area that never gets enough credit: coaching.

    If you look at the lack of success other teams have had in the AFC West over the last several seasons, the biggest downfall has been coaching. Itís hard to coach against the Chiefsí Andy Reid, who ranks in the top 10 in NFL history in all-time wins for a reason. Coaching will be the biggest reason why a team in the AFC West threatens the Chiefs title in 2019, and that team isnít the Chargers.
    While I appreciate the optimism over a new HC, itís just as likely Fangio is Wade Phillips as he is BB. Both great D-Coordinators, but only 1 turned out to be a great HC.

    The NFL is littered with great coordinators who couldnít cut it as HC. No blemish on those gentlemen, itís simply a different beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainrnxile View Post
    While I appreciate the optimism over a new HC, it’s just as likely Fangio is Wade Phillips as he is BB. Both great D-Coordinators, but only 1 turned out to be a great HC.

    The NFL is littered with great coordinators who couldn’t cut it as HC. No blemish on those gentlemen, it’s simply a different beast.
    I agree with this, but time will tell what Fangio is........ Still, he HAS to be better than VJ. These last couple years have been horrid!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainrnxile View Post
    While I appreciate the optimism over a new HC, it’s just as likely Fangio is Wade Phillips as he is BB. Both great D-Coordinators, but only 1 turned out to be a great HC.

    The NFL is littered with great coordinators who couldn’t cut it as HC. No blemish on those gentlemen, it’s simply a different beast.
    littered with them like Vance joseph??

    you can say it how ever you want but his time as a NFL DC gives him a edge over the disaster of VJ



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    whether he ultimately shows he can be a HC or not...I have zero doubts he will be a better coach than the crap we had the last two seasons
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    Quote Originally Posted by arapaho View Post
    littered with them like Vance joseph??

    you can say it how ever you want but his time as a NFL DC gives him a edge over the disaster of VJ



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    whether he ultimately shows he can be a HC or not...I have zero doubts he will be a better coach than the crap we had the last two seasons
    Time will tell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainrnxile View Post
    Time will tell
    Vance wasn't even a good DC, and had a mere 10 years coaching in the league at any position, were Fangio has over 30

    I have zero doubt Fangio will be a better HC than what we had the last two seasons

    not saying he will become the next bilichek, but it it shouldn't be hard for a guy with his experience to be better than VJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_Z View Post
    We have as much talent on this roster as any other team. With guys like Lindsay, Jano, Fant, Fumagali, Sutton and ES we shouldn’t have any trouble putting the points on the board and we have the defense to back us up.

    That is what these trolls under the forum floor boards live in fear of every day!
    I'm unsure Jano's job is safe.

    The 49ers used Juszczyk as a receiver too.
    He just earned a new contact with a '19 cap of 6M.

    Maybe Denver transitions one of the four TEs on the team
    to FB?

    Out of TEs:
    Heuerman (Balanced-ish) +
    Fant (receiver type) +
    Fumagalli (receiver type) +
    Butt (Balanced. Elway: top notch tight end.)

    If Butt can stay healthy, he could replace Janovich
    to ensure we keep all four TEs with one playing a hybrid role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arapaho View Post
    Vance wasn't even a good DC, and had a mere 10 years coaching in the league at any position, were Fangio has over 30

    I have zero doubt Fangio will be a better HC than what we had the last two seasons

    not saying he will become the next bilichek, but it it shouldn't be hard for a guy with his experience to be better than VJ
    Im sure youíre right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mozzerpete View Post
    I'm unsure Jano's job is safe.

    The 49ers used Juszczyk as a receiver too.
    He just earned a new contact with a '19 cap of 6M.

    Maybe Denver transitions one of the four TEs on the team
    to FB?

    Out of TEs:
    Heuerman (Balanced-ish) +
    Fant (receiver type) +
    Fumagalli (receiver type) +
    Butt (Balanced. Elway: top notch tight end.)

    If Butt can stay healthy, he could replace Janovich
    to ensure we keep all four TEs with one playing a hybrid role.
    Jano isn't going anywhere.... His value isn't just on the offense, he's the Special Teams Captain last season. One of those TE's is on the outside looking in unfortunately. Butt can't stay healthy, so I see him possibly being on the losing end of this. Watching this play out is one of the more interesting story lines this off season in my opinion. If Fant was completely ready to take the full starting load, Heuerman would be gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mozzerpete View Post
    I'm unsure Jano's job is safe.

    The 49ers used Juszczyk as a receiver too.
    He just earned a new contact with a '19 cap of 6M.

    Maybe Denver transitions one of the four TEs on the team
    to FB?

    Out of TEs:
    Heuerman (Balanced-ish) +
    Fant (receiver type) +
    Fumagalli (receiver type) +
    Butt (Balanced. Elway: top notch tight end.)

    If Butt can stay healthy, he could replace Janovich
    to ensure we keep all four TEs with one playing a hybrid role.

    there is no way in hell Butt could replace Jano at FB ...a 6'6" fullback ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stackhouser View Post
    Jano isn't going anywhere.... His value isn't just on the offense, he's the Special Teams Captain last season. One of those TE's is on the outside looking in unfortunately. Butt can't stay healthy, so I see him possibly being on the losing end of this. Watching this play out is one of the more interesting story lines this off season in my opinion. If Fant was completely ready to take the full starting load, Heuerman would be gone.
    I understand Janovich is a fan favorite,
    but perhaps another player can pick up his ST duties
    (Malik Reed, Su'a Cravens or another roster bubble player)
    while one of the four TEs pick up his blocking duties on O.

    Does anyone know if Janovich can catch and be a similar threat as Juszczyk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mozzerpete View Post
    I understand Janovich is a fan favorite,
    but perhaps another player can pick up his ST duties
    (Malik Reed, Su'a Cravens or another roster bubble player)
    while one of the four TEs pick up his blocking duties on O.

    Does anyone know if Janovich can catch and be a similar threat as Juszczyk?
    It's not about fan favorite, he's not going anywhere. Those TE's are not going to line up in the backfield when they have a true FB that, yes, can catch the ball. He hasn't seen the field a whole lot due to the offense they ran the last couple years. He is an animal on ST. Reed nor Cravens will take that over either. Jano is a leader and he's a talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stackhouser View Post
    It's not about fan favorite, he's not going anywhere. Those TE's are not going to line up in the backfield when they have a true FB that, yes, can catch the ball. He hasn't seen the field a whole lot due to the offense they ran the last couple years. He is an animal on ST. Reed nor Cravens will take that over either. Jano is a leader and he's a talent.

    I hope so... he is a favourite of mine..and imo...underused
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stackhouser View Post
    It's not about fan favorite, he's not going anywhere. Those TE's are not going to line up in the backfield when they have a true FB that, yes, can catch the ball. He hasn't seen the field a whole lot due to the offense they ran the last couple years. He is an animal on ST. Reed nor Cravens will take that over either. Jano is a leader and he's a talent.
    Can he really catch, though?
    College career: (4 years)
    5 catches for 87 yards with zero TDs

    True FB?
    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profil...ich?id=2555432

    "Undersized H-back with the ability to give teams a carry here and there and do enough as a blocker to warrant consideration on the roster. Janovich was an extremely productive special teamer this season and if he can prove himself to be an adequate pass* catcher, he could find his way onto a roster and get some snaps."

    It does not appear he is the player you suggest but I hope he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baphamet View Post
    2019-2020 AFC West - Odds To Win

    Chiefs -150
    Chargers +200
    Raiders +1000
    Broncos +1100

    ODDS TO WIN 2019-20 AFC WEST (12/29/19)
    Team Odds
    Kansas City Chiefs 5/9
    Los Angeles Chargers 11/5
    Denver Broncos 15/1
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    Odds to Win the AFC West in 2019

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    Los Angeles Chargers +200
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    Oakland Raiders

    these are the odds and i remember arapaho posting stuff like this when it was his team that was favored so here ya go!

    the broncos are closer to the raiders level than they are the chargers or the chiefs. but then again, the charges and chiefs actually have QB's that don't suck.
    in lock i believe

    oakland raders gm
    latavis murray trade bait

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    Quote Originally Posted by mozzerpete View Post
    I'm unsure Jano's job is safe.

    The 49ers used Juszczyk as a receiver too.
    He just earned a new contact with a '19 cap of 6M.

    Maybe Denver transitions one of the four TEs on the team
    to FB?

    Out of TEs:
    Heuerman (Balanced-ish) +
    Fant (receiver type) +
    Fumagalli (receiver type) +
    Butt (Balanced. Elway: top notch tight end.)

    If Butt can stay healthy, he could replace Janovich
    to ensure we keep all four TEs with one playing a hybrid role.
    i don't see it happening. i see Fumagali on his out looking taking butt can stay health. i think we bring 3. Javo is not only one of the best FB in the NFL. he is super valuble on special teams i am pretty sure he played on all of the units. he may actually be one of the FBs worth big moneys

    oakland raders gm
    latavis murray trade bait

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