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  1. #511
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantaztic7 View Post
    It was a grade 2 sprain which involves tearing of the ligament. You donít risk a playerís career especially with a dumpster fire team.
    Brees suffered a worse form of the same injury and was not IRed. Several players broke bones in the late preseason and were not IRed. Lock could have, and should have, remained on the active roster. He himself said it felt like many thumb jams he's had and played with before. Elway had no business IRing him, he should have been the active backup this whole time. He is currently 100% healthy and could be taking over by this point had that decision not been made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantaztic7 View Post
    It was a grade 2 sprain which involves tearing of the ligament. You donít risk a playerís career especially with a dumpster fire team.
    Do you have a source for that? I couldn't ever find the details only that it was a sprain. This is the first I've heard of torn ligaments in his thumb.

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    Putting Lock behind this oline would be a disaster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Houshmazode View Post
    Putting Lock behind this oline would be a disaster.
    Designed plays to put him on the move and away from immediate danger would probably be a regular thing. Also, getting James back would make a huge impact since Wilkinson is clearly overwhelmed where he's at


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantaztic7 View Post
    It was a grade 2 sprain which involves tearing of the ligament. You donít risk a playerís career especially with a dumpster fire team.
    He was throwing footballs 2weeks ago, it wasn't as serious as you think


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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoStampede View Post
    Do you have a source for that? I couldn't ever find the details only that it was a sprain. This is the first I've heard of torn ligaments in his thumb.
    There was an article not long after Lock went on IR that said it was a grade 2 sprain. If I come across it Iíll post it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JvDub95 View Post
    He was throwing footballs 2weeks ago, it wasn't as serious as you think
    We donít have access to the MRI, nor are we qualified to know the severity (unless youíre an orthopedic specialist with access to all the information including the MRI). After the game in which Lock was injured he said it was worse than what he thought after being on the sideline. We can speculate with conspiracy theories as much as we want, but the fact is that he was put on IR. IMO you donít take unnecessary risk with a talented young quarterback with that type of injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa-pwn View Post
    Brees suffered a worse form of the same injury and was not IRed. Several players broke bones in the late preseason and were not IRed. Lock could have, and should have, remained on the active roster. He himself said it felt like many thumb jams he's had and played with before. Elway had no business IRing him, he should have been the active backup this whole time. He is currently 100% healthy and could be taking over by this point had that decision not been made.
    Every injury is unique. Brees injury was bad enough to require surgery and thus the recovery process was different. Broken bones arenít the same and sprains are often worse, e.g. high ankle sprains. When your entire career hinges on the ability to throw the ball, you protect that ability.

    As far as Elwayís decision, like most over the past several years, he would have stuck with Flacco through at least this point. We can speculate all we want, but the team ultimately decided to put him on IR. Although the team opened with four losses they bounced back with two wins. There were multiple reasons for those losses, Flacco included.

    Lock should start when they believe heís had enough reps to prepare. If and when that happens, I believe weíll see Lock injured again playing behind this line. We should still see how he can play, but the line is garbage with the exception of Risner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Houshmazode View Post
    Putting Lock behind this oline would be a disaster.
    I agree but as a fan, we have to do it when he is healthy. This team is going nowhere and we have to see what we have in Lock.

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    Lock absolutely has to be the starter weeks 11-17 after the bye. We need to know if we have anything there or if we need to go get a QB in the 2020 draft since we will be drafting top 5.

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    I just hope Lock gets his shot and plays well enough for us to see that he can be the guy. Itís time for this franchise to identify their franchise QB and commit to him.

    I think it can be seen if a QB has ďitĒ even behind a bad o-line while making rookie mistakes. You can see talent even when the team sucks.

    Címon, Lock. Be the guy! The entire Broncos fan base is willing you to be our franchise QB.

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    The line is bad, but Flacco doesnít move, he has maybe the worst pocket awareness Iíve ever seen. Multiple times last night he could have stepped up and ran for 5-10 yards, yes even him.

    Scangarelloís playcalling sucks, but Flacco seriously limits everything on offense and does not fit the scheme at all.

    Letís see what the kid can do!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KWHIT97 View Post
    The line is bad, but Flacco doesnít move, he has maybe the worst pocket awareness Iíve ever seen. Multiple times last night he could have stepped up and ran for 5-10 yards, yes even him.

    Scangarelloís playcalling sucks, but Flacco seriously limits everything on offense and does not fit the scheme at all.

    Letís see what the kid can do!
    I will agree that Flacco is not the answer here. And also agree that unfortunately the Broncos absolutely have to find out what you have in Lock before next year's draft, but putting him behind this offensive line will be horrible and not a true indication of what he can do. David Carr was a talented QB who got killed his first year and was never the same after that. Look at Andrew Luck. And many others. Throwing a QB to the wolves is not ideal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 58Miller View Post
    I was very adamant i didnít want Lock back from IR, but after tonite game, I hope if he is healthy he comes back and we can build a run heavy offense that can protect him but get him some live reps.
    If he would have been healthy I think he could have made some plays with his legs but overall that oline will get Lock killed right now.
    The offensive scheme is almost as bad as the talent.
    And throw him to the wolves? That AWAYS ends well.

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    I'm all for putting Lock in there when he's ready. Wouldn't it be great if we could be inspired by a Young QB that can play?
    We already saw what the old guy can do. We have to see if Lock is any good, he doesn't have to be a pro bowler right away, he just has to show that he can play, and get the job done.

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