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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_Z View Post
    Youíre a good man to look at this way and perhaps itís true but as long as Garrett Bolles is on the field, the odds will be stacked against us!
    I'm praying we can get Trent Williams somehow

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    Quote Originally Posted by roushmartin6 View Post
    I'm praying we can get Trent Williams somehow
    Itíd be nice but all I keep hearing is how Washington is asking for far too much. Multiple firsts and a second.

    Plus Williams wants a ridiculously large amount that weíve already got tied up between Leary and James.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roushmartin6 View Post
    Maybe I'm stupid but I still believe we can turn this season around. As bad as we've played so far we've barely lost and had a shot to win right at the end of both games. Get some of our injured guys back and maybe it gets better
    I feel the same way. We move the ball pretty well, we just gotta keep consistent and finish. We definitely should make some moves to help out that line and the middle of the defense.

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    2-14 for mine and if we persist with #72 ( I will not say his name), then the coaching staff are stupider than I thought. Fangio loos befuddled and unprepared to me and why do we open up the playbook when the game is on the line and persist with the dink and dunk rubbish for 55 minutes? It's infuriating!
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    Oh, and Flacco is most definitely NOT the problem. He's a part of the solution but I think we need to trade Miller for either high picks or a disruptive defensive player. CHJ can be traded too! I don't own either jersey so I'm down with cutting them loose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by legend View Post
    Oh, and Flacco is most definitely NOT the problem. He's a part of the solution but I think we need to trade Miller for either high picks or a disruptive defensive player. CHJ can be traded too! I don't own either jersey so I'm down with cutting them loose.
    I agree with trading Miller. Unfortunately donít believe he will net a high round pick. The value would come from saving cap space.

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    The reality is this: if we had an elite QB we would be 2-0. For all the problems we have as a team, that truth is hard to argue against. Until we find another elite QB we are pretty much screwed. The first step should be to get rid of Elway and bring in the best QB evaluator at GM we can find. Of course we need to address a lot of other issues to become a true contender again, but until we make QB a strength of the team once more, none of that really matters much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by legend View Post
    Oh, and Flacco is most definitely NOT the problem. He's a part of the solution but I think we need to trade Miller for either high picks or a disruptive defensive player. CHJ can be traded too! I don't own either jersey so I'm down with cutting them loose.
    Of course Flacco is the problem. He's the 22nd rated passer in the league right now. Most teams are going to lose a lot with that level of QB play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeelzeBob View Post
    Of course Flacco is the problem. He's the 22nd rated passer in the league right now. Most teams are going to lose a lot with that level of QB play.
    No he isn't. It's funny how everyone inflicts blame on the QB when they fail to see every other problem we have.

    Garrett Bolles is one of those problems, as well as us being the only team in the league without a sack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the0rangecrush View Post
    Bolles issues are Bolles issues. The other 4 were improved on what we saw in Oakland. The offense got Sanders involved early and often, that didn't happen last week. We got rid of most of the gimmick plays from last week. RBs were more involved in the passing game. Defensively, CHJ shadowed ARob today, which is a big shift. The run defense was improved. Safety play was much better. The VJ era definitely left us in a bad place. The culture became one of being unprepared and undisciplined. That time developed a losing culture. It takes time to build back up from that. Our issues pre dated VJ in the sense that Kubiak's health deteriorated to the point he had to miss a game. Even then, we were still in playoff contention. Denver had it's ideal coach for present and future in Kubiak, but health issues took that away. The reason why people didn't like VJ was because you would see the same issues appearing again and again, and his in game management cost us games. This year, I saw week 1 issues actually get fixed in week 2. If you have the right guy in the right system you can be successful. Look at Foles, perfect guy for that system and it got them a Superbowl in the playoffs. Now easier said that done, but I don't expect our system to be perfectly in place in week 2 with a new staff.
    Is it just me, or did anyone else think Kubiak's "health issues" were just a nice way to tell Elway he couldnt work for him anymore and wanted to quit. Kubiak's "health issues" didnt keep him away from coaching for long. Notice how he said thanks but no thanks to Elways offer to become our offensive coordinator?

    With Elway, you have to make his horrible roster work or he fires you. I dont actually think VJ was to blame for the results he got. He was a young first year coach with 1 year as a coordinator, he was a lackey to Elway who did whatever Elway wanted. Notice he hired another coach with no experience. I dont think any coach with half a brain would want to come here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeelzeBob View Post
    Of course Flacco is the problem. He's the 22nd rated passer in the league right now. Most teams are going to lose a lot with that level of QB play.
    Based on what metric? If you use ESPNs TQBR he is 12th in the NFL, and was 5th this week.

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    Two games into the season and the whiny birds are already to give up. What did you expect, a 12-0 start for the season? Flacco is doing good. It is not his fault that Sutton ran the wrong route or when a receiver drops a pass? We had some terrible calls from the ref's but every team, except for New England, does. It will take time to undo the VJ effect on this team but hang in there and at least give this team a chance before you fire the coaching staff and give Miller away for a hope and a promise! It takes a little time for the offense and defense to come together and play as a unit!

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    I can see us at 2-8 around the week 10 mark, well on our way to a top 5 pick. At that point, Lock better get the last 6 games for evaluation and development. We need to know whether or not QB is still a huge need going into the draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoStampede View Post
    Is it just me, or did anyone else think Kubiak's "health issues" were just a nice way to tell Elway he couldnt work for him anymore and wanted to quit. Kubiak's "health issues" didnt keep him away from coaching for long. Notice how he said thanks but no thanks to Elways offer to become our offensive coordinator?

    With Elway, you have to make his horrible roster work or he fires you. I dont actually think VJ was to blame for the results he got. He was a young first year coach with 1 year as a coordinator, he was a lackey to Elway who did whatever Elway wanted. Notice he hired another coach with no experience. I dont think any coach with half a brain would want to come here.
    He was hospitalized, in October of 2016. That followed with his issues when he was Texans HC, is a legitimate concern. Being a HC was too much time and stress on him, being an OC or an offensive advisor is different, still a commitment, it's much less than that of a HC. Kubiak stayed on as an advisor, and was going to be our OC until the 11th hour Munchak hire. So no I don't think his health issues were a "nice way" to say he doesn't want to work for Elway.

    VJ failed for a variety of reasons, and yes not all of them were VJs fault. Elway and Kubiak came up with the plan of succession for Kubes departure (VJ came with a seal of approval from Kubiak) one of which was partnering VJ with Mike McCoy, who as it turns out was planning to have one foot out the door when he got here. That said, VJ had his own serious issues, from in game management, to lack of adjustments. Covering TEs is major issue in his Arizona led defense for example.

    As for who would want to coach here, well for starters, let's give Fangio and Co more than 2 weeks before we decide their fate. Second, Elway chose Fangio specifically because he was looking for a coach who was dominant in their specific area of expertise. He chose Fangio over Munchak (who has had experience as a HC) so I will say that's two guys with "half a brain" who are of the highest caliber in their position fields.

    Elway made a bad decision in hiring Vance, that's on him. Him compounded that issue with a disastrous 2017 draft. He missed big, and I mean real big. That said, he learned from those mistakes, and changed his philosophy the subsequent drafts. Elway is not infallible, and definitely made his share of mistakes, but let's not burn the house down two weeks into a new HC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kansas Bob View Post
    Two games into the season and the whiny birds are already to give up. What did you expect, a 12-0 start for the season? Flacco is doing good. It is not his fault that Sutton ran the wrong route or when a receiver drops a pass? We had some terrible calls from the ref's but every team, except for New England, does. It will take time to undo the VJ effect on this team but hang in there and at least give this team a chance before you fire the coaching staff and give Miller away for a hope and a promise! It takes a little time for the offense and defense to come together and play as a unit!
    There are definitely some issues that I didn't expect, such as lack of pass rush. There are also some things I thought might be an issue, that definitely are. For example, Fangio's increased responsibilities have led to him being slower in making adjustments than he has been, and Scangarello is going through some first time playcaller growing pains. That said, the team was improved from week 1, and I definitely saw adjustments. I think we are trending in the right direction, but we have a ways to go. Which is something we should expect with a new staff.

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