Look at this guy!!!!!
if we support the Broncos GM under contract through 2021, we are not supporting the organization?
I would say supporting the people the organization has in place is supporting the organization.
Elway was hired by Pat Bowlen. So instead of pounding the table for an unproven anybody like you, I choose to be patient and support the team today win or lose.
Last edited by 58Miller; 11-04-2019 at 02:59 PM.
You gonna have to actually read the stuff I say. Why must I have to “prove” things that know I have said here very recently?
More than once I’ve suggested putting tyrod Taylor in if he keeps playing bad and if that bad OL can’t protect him.
I said it right after we lost to the broncos. I’ve lit rivers up for bad play around here and all you have to do is read it.
You on the other hand, just a blind homer that would never hold elway accountable for anything.
EDIT: just so you can not eat your foot because you are never wrong.
ive said it in another post too and ive been very critical of rivers when i felt it was warranted, who is still my favorite charger player. even though the line has gotten better and magically so has rivers.
but you would have me think it's a lack of talent around him? yeah man, stick to swinging from elway's stones, it's what you do best and its really all you know.....besides stat watching of course!.
Last edited by baphamet; 11-04-2019 at 02:10 PM.
I appreciate that bro, but I can’t say i’m not biased lol
However the rest of what you say is true, I do hold my team and favorite player accountable, I do admit being wrong And I was wrong about the chargers this year.
Arapaho would never admit being wrong or hold elway accountable for anything, that is absolutely 100% truth.
Hate? That’s a strong word!!!
Seems like you love Elways draft selections:
You seem to like Elway selections just not him......
Who do you think will be drafting an additional weapon and oline help? Your fantasy GM that you can’t narrow down to one name or the GM currently under contract?
Last edited by 58Miller; 11-04-2019 at 10:36 PM.
wrong sonny unlike you and your new love Sammy
I hold everybody accountable for the team, from players to coaches to GM
however unlike some fools...I do not blame every thing from the dog getting fleas to to blockbuster video closing down on Elway...that's the part you guys don't get
he whines and snivels about Elway...for everything and then spouts off conspiracy theories that he's in the loop at the broncos headquarters
and if a coach leaves its because elway forced him,
if a player doesn't play its because Elway dictates to the coach,
if a players is drafted and doesn't pan out its because Elway, refused to listen to the scout team, wrote his own draft analysis, and made the draft board all by himself with absolutely zero input
if a player leaves in free agency its because Elway refused to pay...in most cases overpay
now you may subscribe to such nonsense and knowing you I would believe you do
broncos record with Elway as GM with a elite qb for two years (2013-2014) since 2013 when telesco was hired
60-45
3 afc west titles
two afc championships
1 superbowl championship
chargers record with telesco and a elite qb for 2013,2014,2015,2016,2017,2018,2019
52-53
0
so is it all telescos fault??? i mean the ineptness of being overall worse than the horrible managed elway team?
Last edited by arapaho; 11-05-2019 at 12:10 PM.
ohh he will whine about Elway drafting bolles to no end
but wont praise him for
von,
wolfe
chubb
simmons
walker
hollings
CHJ
reed
dremont jones
lindsey
freeman
fant
Sutton
risner
or for bringing in players in fa like
Shelby
kareem
Purcell
A Johnson
buasby
dawson
harris or even Allen
we have a solid core that can compete with any team...we just need the qb and a few holes filled
you suggested it one time as far as I can recall...it used to be a glowing endorsement no matter what and you know it...it was never rivers fault...from the oline, to wrs, to scheme, to special teams, to coaches...there was always a reason you did not blame rivers for failing
and im not a Elway fan club...im a bronco fan always have been
I just don't lay the blame at the feet of one single guy, considering all the circumstances involved...like you guys want to
Sure you have, you placed all the blame at the feet of Vance Joseph over the last 2 1/2 years.
But like everything else you will deny that as well and I’m sure I’ll get another Neg as soon as you see this.![]()
Could add contradictory to your list of chronically and cowardly whining.
It’s the first time I recall mentioning benching him but I have been critical of rivers several times when I’ve felt it’s warranted.
Just because I don’t blindly blame rivers when the team struggles like a mindless sloth doesn’t mean I haven’t held him accountable.
You have never once been critical or have held elway accountable for anything even though you have credited him for the success, that’s the difference.
I would hold anybody accountable that costs us games on the field
I hold Elway accountable for the mistake of VJ...a monumental mistake...but I also know that had kubiak not gotten sick and had strokes he probably would still be our coach today as was the plan
you condemn Elway...for something your GM cant fix the oline, you blame Elway for something your GM hasn't had to face yet, replacing a franchise qb
you blame elway for his drafts but ignore
of telescos 2013 draft 1 out of 7 picks is still on the team or even playing
2014 0 of 7 picks
of 2015 only 2 of 5 are still on the team
2016 4- 8
so since 2013 the chargers under telesco have had 27 picks and only 7 are still with the team 7 out of 27 compared to elways 9 of 31
so if in your eyes Elway is so damn terrible...why do you stick up for yours?? ..at least Elway has built two teams that made it to the superbowl
The chargers are loaded with talent, only the OL he has failed to solidify (even though they seem to be improving on their own somehow)
Let’s get something straight though, I’ve never said elway should be fired and I have said he has earned more time up until this year.
But if telesco fails 4 years in a row to improve the talent of the offense, if he fails numerous times in a row to even get a mediocre QB in there and fail at getting a proper coaching staff in there.....
I assure you I will be lighting his ass up here. I’m not attached to telesco by any means but you would have to be a blind fool to believe he hasn’t done an above average job getting talent.
Last edited by baphamet; 11-06-2019 at 06:40 PM.
you never said Elway should be fired...weird tho how you condemn his every move from the start
telesco has failed to fix the oline since he was hired...the only thing preventing the chargers from being a perennial 4-5 win team since he was hired is Philip rivers, you can brag about offensive talent all you want...the fact of the matter is I would bet the chargers would have a losing record every single year if they were starting junk qbs, Rivers is the biggest benefit to telescos record there is
VJ was elways biggest blunder to date...followed by the inability to get a franchise qb, or commit to one he drafts and see if they can develop, he prefers the old school, let the sit behind a vet for a couple years approach...that doesn't seem to fit the mold anymore specially when the vets he signs suck
right now this team has lost three games...by last second Fgs after having a 4th qrter lead, all three coming with controversial U.R penalties giving the opposing team yardage to try a fg we could easily be 6-3 even with the suck that was flacco, had we stopped those attempts
and that's with the hardest schedule in the west