View Poll Results: Should John Elway be fired?

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  1. #436
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    Isnt drafting and signing FA rebuilding in a sense . It's a constant building up of a team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capt. Jack View Post
    You always have a veteran quarterback, when you're rebuilding, and you draft a Young quarterback. Very good move on John Elway's part. When the Young quarterback is good enough he beats out the old veteran.
    When are you playing the young QB? You paid Keenum and Flacco big bucks. They were brought in to win games, not be bridges. Why was there a 'decision' audition with Siemien and Lynch? Lynch should have just been given the spot and sink or swim on his own. Is there going to be a similar 'decision' contest next year? Or are they paying big bucks to Flacco to sit? At some point the rebuild has to include a plan to draft a guy and give him the keys. Not sign guys who may or may not have some magic still and expect them to play a couple years at a serviceable while your high draft pick sits IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronco51 View Post
    When are you playing the young QB? You paid Keenum and Flacco big bucks. They were brought in to win games, not be bridges. Why was there a 'decision' audition with Siemien and Lynch? Lynch should have just been given the spot and sink or swim on his own. Is there going to be a similar 'decision' contest next year? Or are they paying big bucks to Flacco to sit? At some point the rebuild has to include a plan to draft a guy and give him the keys. Not sign guys who may or may not have some magic still and expect them to play a couple years at a serviceable while your high draft pick sits IMHO.
    Everybody has a different vision for the way a rebuild is supposed to look. When it works it's great. When it doesn't people get fired or step down. I think there's all different kinds of ways to get things done.

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    I think true rebuilds involve a young quarterback and a veteran back up with no delusions of grandeur.

    I don’t think we can excuse John Elway’s failures as a rebuilding process. He needs to do a better job of identifying quarterback talent and coaching talent as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronco51 View Post
    When are you playing the young QB? You paid Keenum and Flacco big bucks. They were brought in to win games, not be bridges. Why was there a 'decision' audition with Siemien and Lynch? Lynch should have just been given the spot and sink or swim on his own. Is there going to be a similar 'decision' contest next year? Or are they paying big bucks to Flacco to sit? At some point the rebuild has to include a plan to draft a guy and give him the keys. Not sign guys who may or may not have some magic still and expect them to play a couple years at a serviceable while your high draft pick sits IMHO.
    because no team puts a rookie who has never played in a pro style offense as the starter when you have a more experienced and AT THAT POINT BETTER QB on the team...just as much as the fans want to see wins...the players want to win more, they are competitive, they have worked all their lives to get o this point, they want to win...you put a qb who isn't ready, who is clearly not as good as the older vet as the starter you are signling to the other players you really don't care if the team wins...it is a moral killer



    Lock may be the franchise QB, but you don't play a rookie when you have a veteran qb who can still play

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    Quote Originally Posted by arapaho View Post
    because no team puts a rookie who has never played in a pro style offense as the starter when you have a more experienced and AT THAT POINT BETTER QB on the team...just as much as the fans want to see wins...the players want to win more, they are competitive, they have worked all their lives to get o this point, they want to win...you put a qb who isn't ready, who is clearly not as good as the older vet as the starter you are signling to the other players you really don't care if the team wins...it is a moral killer



    Lock may be the franchise QB, but you don't play a rookie when you have a veteran qb who can still play
    Exactly right. Flacco has had 5 solid games. He isn't the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arapaho View Post
    because no team puts a rookie who has never played in a pro style offense as the starter when you have a more experienced and AT THAT POINT BETTER QB on the team...just as much as the fans want to see wins...the players want to win more, they are competitive, they have worked all their lives to get o this point, they want to win...you put a qb who isn't ready, who is clearly not as good as the older vet as the starter you are signling to the other players you really don't care if the team wins...it is a moral killer



    Lock may be the franchise QB, but you don't play a rookie when you have a veteran qb who can still play
    Then why do they keep signing vets who they think can still play? I can see if it's a Josh McCown type of guy that nobody expects to last more than 1 season as a starter. But they signed Keenum to a multi year deal, and then Flacco to a multi year deal expecting both to perform at a high level. Again, at some point, the plan has to be the rookie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtown53 View Post
    Exactly right. Flacco has had 5 solid games. He isn't the problem.
    5 solid games? Is this real life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronco51 View Post
    Then why do they keep signing vets who they think can still play? I can see if it's a Josh McCown type of guy that nobody expects to last more than 1 season as a starter. But they signed Keenum to a multi year deal, and then Flacco to a multi year deal expecting both to perform at a high level. Again, at some point, the plan has to be the rookie.
    Because Flacco can still play

    If your on the buss that thinks Flacco is why we are losing, it’s a short bus

    At some point when a rookie is ready or forced into the roll you will see

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    Quote Originally Posted by arapaho View Post
    Because Flacco can still play

    If your on the buss that thinks Flacco is why we are losing, it’s a short bus

    At some point when a rookie is ready or forced into the roll you will see
    A rookie shouldn't be 'forced' into the roll. It should be the plan to play him. Flacco isn't the reason they're losing, but he isn't making a deep playoff run either. So winning 7 or 8 games and picking in the late teens or early 20's doesn't do much from a rebuild standpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeelzeBob View Post
    5 solid games? Is this real life?
    Yes. He has played well this season.

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    if he can get the o-line and the qB spot we ae a very competivie team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyousukeneko View Post
    if he can get the o-line and the qB spot we ae a very competivie team
    Elway didn’t get the memo. Please let him know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JW7 View Post
    Yes. He has played well this season.
    You apparently have very low standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeelzeBob View Post
    You apparently have very low standards.
    He has played solid. I am not saying he has been great. He also hasn't been bad. How do you define solid? Because to me, Flacco is playing good enough for us to win this year.

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