Chris Harris Jr.

[Fantaztic7]

I saw a highlight of CHJ getting beat. Did he actually get beat? Or was it "another guy who messed up his assignment?"

Not Chris Harris Jr. His “coverage” was exceptional. I’m sure Simmons should have been there on the backend. I’m sure biting on the move by Brown was Simmons’ fault.

[beastlyskronk]

Chris Harris Jr was beat badly today. He bit on the move so hard and was slow to recover. Another thing I noticed about him last week and today was not getting off blocks to make tackles. Receivers easily push him back out of the play. He doesn’t get targeted as often because coordinators can target guys like Yiadom. If he were targeted more often we would see him burned more like today. If he always needs help on the backend, he’s really not an elite cornerback.

Yes, he bit hard on a double move and couldn’t recover. As far as not getting off blocks, that’s an effort thing that’s been going on all season but we already knew he checked out. He will likely sign with a better team next season and there will be a noticeable difference. He hasn’t lost a step IMO but he has lost that competitive edge

[XterraRob]

So because CHJ got beat during that game against one of the fastest receivers in the NFL - we need to start discussing trades? Phenomenal Denver Bronco Forum reasoning strikes again.

"Trade Trade Trade!"
"Fire Fire Fire!"

"Why is our team doing so horribly?"

[Peerless]

So because CHJ got beat during that game against one of the fastest receivers in the NFL - we need to start discussing trades? Phenomenal Denver Bronco Forum reasoning strikes again.

"Trade Trade Trade!"
"Fire Fire Fire!"

"Why is our team doing so horribly?"

Well, now that the trade deadline has come and gone - trading Harris isn't into play obviously.

But let's be honest. CHJ wants to get paid big FA money one final time during the closing stretch of his career.

I don't think Elway is going to give it to him. It would have been nice to have gotten an early-round draft pick for him. But now, more than likely he'll leave as a free agent.

[Fantaztic7]

Well, now that the trade deadline has come and gone - trading Harris isn't into play obviously.

But let's be honest. CHJ wants to get paid big FA money one final time during the closing stretch of his career.

I don't think Elway is going to give it to him. It would have been nice to have gotten an early-round draft pick for him. But now, more than likely he'll leave as a free agent.

It would have still been beneficial to trade for a 3rd rd pick.

[Megalodon30]

So because CHJ got beat during that game against one of the fastest receivers in the NFL - we need to start discussing trades? Phenomenal Denver Bronco Forum reasoning strikes again.

"Trade Trade Trade!"
"Fire Fire Fire!"

"Why is our team doing so horribly?"

He's been getting beat noticeably in the last 3 games. He was getting beat in the Browns game, he got beat in the Vikings game, and he got beat against the Bills. Right now, CHJ has looked as bad 3 games in a row as bad as Yiadom looked against the Raiders. Hopefully it won't continue, but it is a troubling trend.

[Sam_Z]

It would have still been beneficial to trade for a 3rd rd pick.

Yep, the great GMs like Belichick or Newsome would had done so!

[Fantaztic7]

Yep, the great GMs like Belichick or Newsome would had done so!

Belichick would have taken the best value possible and moved on.

[darryn16]

Well, now that the trade deadline has come and gone - trading Harris isn't into play obviously.

But let's be honest. CHJ wants to get paid big FA money one final time during the closing stretch of his career.

I don't think Elway is going to give it to him. It would have been nice to have gotten an early-round draft pick for him. But now, more than likely he'll leave as a free agent.

Yep, another classic move by the FO

[CodyRoarkNFL]

I always laugh at the usual "Insert Player Name* is washed because he gave up a TD. He made a mistake in coverage vs John Brown by peaking at the QB when Brown stemmed him. He can still play at a high level and DEN needs to find a way to keep him for 2-3 more seasons. If not, CB1, CB2 become the team's primary needs in the off-season.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Chris has always struggled against speed guys on the outside.

[broncolee]

I always laugh at the usual "Insert Player Name* is washed because he gave up a TD. He made a mistake in coverage vs John Brown by peaking at the QB when Brown stemmed him. He can still play at a high level and DEN needs to find a way to keep him for 2-3 more seasons. If not, CB1, CB2 become the team's primary needs in the off-season.

Harris is at the age where you’re willing to cut bait at the first sign of deteriorating skills.

[HDbroncos02]

Harris is at the age where you’re willing to cut bait at the first sign of deteriorating skills.

And his play with his “deteriorating skills” is still Top 10 in this league. Not to mention how valuable his leadership and football IQ is to this team, especially as the defense transitions under Fangio and is still learning.

Yes, he got beat bad by John Brown on one play. But what NFL CB hasn’t gotten beat deep before?

When Diggs scored two weeks ago, the defense was in Cover 3. CHJ played his assignment about as well as anyone should, but KJax got suckered in the wrong direction and failed to execute his assignment by helping up top when Diggs broke deep in his route.

CHJ and Von seem to be the scapegoats for posters here in this forum. Their assignments in Fangio’s defense aren’t the flashiest on a play-to-play basis. But they are still as good as ever. Their value to this team is tremendous, and simply suggesting to trade them for mid-round picks or even cutting them for cap purposes (even though their contracts are friendly- relative to their positional peers) is just disrespectful towards everything they’ve done for this team and the community.

[broncolee]

And his play with his “deteriorating skills” is still Top 10 in this league. Not to mention how valuable his leadership and football IQ is to this team, especially as the defense transitions under Fangio and is still learning.

Yes, he got beat bad by John Brown on one play. But what NFL CB hasn’t gotten beat deep before?

When Diggs scored two weeks ago, the defense was in Cover 3. CHJ played his assignment about as well as anyone should, but KJax got suckered in the wrong direction and failed to execute his assignment by helping up top when Diggs broke deep in his route.

CHJ and Von seem to be the scapegoats for posters here in this forum. Their assignments in Fangio’s defense aren’t the flashiest on a play-to-play basis. But they are still as good as ever. Their value to this team is tremendous, and simply suggesting to trade them for mid-round picks or even cutting them for cap purposes (even though their contracts are friendly- relative to their positional peers) is just disrespectful towards everything they’ve done for this team and the community.

Harris is a free agent after this season.

It’s perfectly reasonable for the Broncos to not give him an inflated contract, that he is not likely to justify with his on field performance.

[HDbroncos02]

Harris is a free agent after this season.

It’s perfectly reasonable for the Broncos to not give him an inflated contract, that he is not likely to justify with his on field performance.

I think we definitely disagree about his performance, and you’re right, he does have the option of leaving after this season.

In the event that he does walk, what do we do at CB? I think no matter what, CB should be a priority in the upcoming draft. Then again, that’s another young, inexperienced corner in a room that lacks experience. CHJ was lucky to have an aging Champ. Whoever is next (I thought Yiadom would be the guy, but he’s been extremely underwhelming), would be lucky to have an “aging” CHJ.

And if we sign a corner in FA who is presumably cheaper than what we would’ve signed CHJ for... I would wager a lot of money that by Week 3 of next season, we would be calling for his head because he simply wouldn’t be as talented or effective as CHJ was. Who knows, we might have that guy already... Bryce Callahan.