McGovern is a low end starter in the league, although he has Not been nearly the liability I thought.
That's the worst O-line play I've seen in a decade, from any team.
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Originally posted by Fantaztic7 View PostBilly Turner allowed zero sacks and 1 QB hit in his last 7 starts in Denver (4th most snaps of 32 teams those 7 games). This season he’s been rated one of the top pass blocking guards in the league, winning 98% of his pass blocking matchups.
You’re missing the point about Wilkinson. The guy improved every year and earned his way into the roster. Struggling some at RT doesn’t mean he cannot play guard, nor does it mean he cannot improve at tackle. Wilkinson is coachable and works hard - kind of guy Munchak can develop.
Should get a shot at RG.sigpic
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Originally posted by Kyousukeneko View PostI feel like we need to make a move in this next draft to make sure we walk away with andrew Thomas he is to me the only surefire way to fix this lineWhat's the difference between ignorance and apathy?
I don't know and I don't care
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Originally posted by the0rangecrush View PostAndrew Thomas or Tristan Whirfs would get my vote. Then trade back into it for Tyler Biadasz the OC from Wisconsin. Release Leary, and overpay for Schreff.sigpic
oakland raders gm
latavis murray trade bait
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Originally posted by Kyousukeneko View Posti don't know i like the overpaying any one, you pay them what they are worth. we need multiple new starters it may also be expect to trade back in we should not give a top pick next year to trde back inWhat's the difference between ignorance and apathy?
I don't know and I don't care
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Originally posted by the0rangecrush View PostBad teams overpay that's just how it is. We currently have 2 3rd rounders, and rumor is we might pick up a 3rd if we move Sanders, that's enough to move back into it without giving up a 1st the following year.sigpic
oakland raders gm
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Originally posted by Kyousukeneko View Postthe best option is to build it threw the draft you can get stud gaurds and centers in the second and third. look at Erik Mccoy or Elton Jenkins this year. we need to draft alot of o-line and some speed for our LB core.What's the difference between ignorance and apathy?
I don't know and I don't care
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Originally posted by the0rangecrush View PostRight now the key should be protecting the young QB whether it be Lock or future draft pick. I agree, we should draft OL, take them early and often. However, you need some Veteran presence there as well.sigpic
oakland raders gm
latavis murray trade bait
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Originally posted by Kyousukeneko View Postjawuan james should be a good guy for a vet presense.What's the difference between ignorance and apathy?
I don't know and I don't care
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Originally posted by Kyousukeneko View Postjawuan james should be a good guy for a vet presense. i also disagree you need it. the great oline dallas has had was all developed through the draft it took multiple years, but it was all done through the draft.What's the difference between ignorance and apathy?
I don't know and I don't care
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Originally posted by Fantaztic7 View PostAfter breaking down 4 of the sacks, the line wasn’t as poor as I thought. A lot of the issues fall back on Flacco.
Sack 1 - Wilkinson could have done better however he managed to move the rusher outside. Flacco could have climbed the pocket to avoid the sack. Freeman didn’t help Wilkinson but it looked like he was there to cover the inside. Not sure why this play wasn’t designed to have Freeman release for a check down. This sack was mostly on Flacco for not stepping up.
Sack 2 - Wilkinson got the rusher to the outside. Lindsay was assigned to help and missed. Once again Flacco failed to climb the pocket. Although Wilkinson and Lindsay could have done better, Flacco failed to move. There was a clean area in front of him.
Near end of 1st quarter Hamilton ran a short route and he was wide open. Flacco saw him but didn’t make the throw. Hamilton had room for YAC. Instead Flacco scrambled right and tried to hit Fant. That was the PI call picked up by the refs. Again, Flacco needed to hit the easy throw to Hamilton for a 1st down.
Sack 3 - KC showed blitz. Lindsay picked up one defender and there was a 2nd coming through free. Flacco should have thrown the ball away. Instead the ball was stripped for scoop and score. The line ended up with a free blocker. They either didn’t communicate or Flacco didn’t adjust protection pre-snap.
Sack 4 - Delayed blitz by KC. The line and Lindsay did a solid job. Heuerman was wide open and Flacco held onto the ball. No excuse for Flacco, easy completion. The delayed blitz never gets home if Flacco makes the pass to Heuerman for the 1st down. Heuerman had room for YAC.
I’ll look at the other 5 sacks later. Although the line could have played better, a lot of the sacks were on Flacco. On those plays Wilkinson wasn’t great but a good quarterback steps up to avoid the sack.
Sack 6 - Line made a clean pocket. What happened? Flacco held the ball too long and didn’t step up in the pocket. When the pocket started to collapse all he had to do was dump the ball off to Freeman.
Not going to break down the other sacks. Although the line wasn’t perfect, at least 80% of the issues were on Flacco.
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Originally posted by FlaccoTruther View PostFlacco is the cause for many of these issues. He doesn't slide protection and shows zero awareness of recognizing who the blitzer is. Qb's got to help their oline out.
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Originally posted by 58Miller View PostHe cannot play tackle, guard is his last chance
Should get a shot at RG.
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