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NFL Network's 100 All-time Team TE...No Sharpe & No Gates...WHAT A JOKE!!!
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Originally posted by TommyBrady12 View PostIncorrect.
Sharpe had 1197 targets, while Gronk had 794 targets. And Gronk played in 115 games, while Sharpe played in 204...and yet Gronk had way more TDs. If Gronk played in the same number of games as Sharpe, his numbers would be approximately;
15,600 yards
160 TDs
1040 receptions
These numbers would blow Sharpe's numbers out the water...sigpic
Thank you to my grandfather jetrazor for being a veteran of the armed forces!
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Originally posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor View PostGronk is the most dominant TE to play the game. That doesn’t mean Sharpe isn’t top 5.Super Bowl Wins: Brady - 6 Elway - 2 Manning - 2 (played well in none and took HGH)
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Originally posted by Spice 1 View PostNow you know why we hated Heath Evans. McGinest isn't much better.Super Bowl Wins: Brady - 6 Elway - 2 Manning - 2 (played well in none and took HGH)
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Originally posted by TommyBrady12 View PostThey are pro-patriot for sure, but they are not anti-other teams the way Sharpe is with NE. He spends more time hating on us than talking about his old teams Broncos and Ravens.
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Originally posted by TommyBrady12 View PostThey are pro-patriot for sure, but they are not anti-other teams the way Sharpe is with NE. He spends more time hating on us than talking about his old teams Broncos and Ravens.sigpic
Thank you to my grandfather jetrazor for being a veteran of the armed forces!
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Ditka was a given. He was the first tight end voted to the Hall of Fame. I can't comment on his numbers but you hear about his impact all the time. Being the "first" as the game was being shaped kinda makes the player immune to what his numbers were compared to other eras.
John Mackey was the second TE voted to the HOF, but he was a certified beast.
I agree on the old time bias being incorrect, in some cases. The thing that's unfair to the new school is that they can't help if Ditka came first or if the game being pass happy inflates their numbers. They were still the best at their position at their time, and I'm specifically talking about Sharpe and Gates.
This was a highly debated list. I would personally replace Ditka with Gates or Sharpe but that's because I never saw Iron Mike play, which is not his fault. Kellen Winslow deserves to be there. I remember him as the best at his position during his time but on a personal perhaps biased note, I always felt Todd Christensen rivaled him during part of his career.
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Here's a stat someone could attempt to determine. How many players have there been in the NFL since the 1950's? Is the ratio 100 of the x factor of players realistic or fair? Out of the tens of thousands of NFL players to play, my question is why the "Top 100"?
I believe it should be the "Top 200", that way a lot of the controversy goes away, IMO!Utah Bronco Freak
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Originally posted by jazzbodog View PostHere's a stat someone could attempt to determine. How many players have there been in the NFL since the 1950's? Is the ratio 100 of the x factor of players realistic or fair? Out of the tens of thousands of NFL players to play, my question is why the "Top 100"?
I believe it should be the "Top 200", that way a lot of the controversy goes away, IMO!Super Bowl Wins: Brady - 6 Elway - 2 Manning - 2 (played well in none and took HGH)
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Originally posted by TommyBrady12 View PostTop 100 because it's the 100th anniversary of the NFL. In the year 2119, we'll get the top 200 players.
If there is an NFL existing in 2119 all of the coastal teams will need to relocate to the inner United States and high tech gas masks will be standard equipment for all human beings in the stadium.Utah Bronco Freak
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Originally posted by Mainrnxile View PostYeah, I’m more surprised by Ditka than Mackey. Hard not to include sharp & Gates.
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Originally posted by mct1967 View PostThank you for being a Pats fan with more of a sensible brain...as opposed to your other Patriots cohort, here. You have some objectivity and rationality to your posts....that other guy...not so much.Super Bowl Wins: Brady - 6 Elway - 2 Manning - 2 (played well in none and took HGH)
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Originally posted by TommyBrady12 View PostWhy are you constantly making assumptions about my thinking? I never once said Sharpe or Gates dont deserve to be top 5...Utah Bronco Freak
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Originally posted by jazzbodog View PostThere you go again completely missing the point. Your previous statements prove you cannot be openly objective regarding anything remotely negative about the Patriots. Everyone knows, in your mind, the Patriots / Staff cannot do anything wrong and if it appears they may have, you minimize it and blow it off as unwarranted or extremely trivial. Like jaywalking or not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign. I'll speak for myself but if the truth were known, there are many that would agree with me in that, as soon as I see a post starting with QUOTE=TommyBrady12, I assume it will be stinking cow pie nonsense from a self righteous Pansy fan that will say anything to proclaim unrealistic greatness for a clan of classless cheaters.Super Bowl Wins: Brady - 6 Elway - 2 Manning - 2 (played well in none and took HGH)
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