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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantaztic7 View Post
    Bolles has had three years to develop. The expectation of a first round pick should be less time to develop. A tackle who can protect without a lot of holding penalties should be the expectation, at least thatís what I expect from a
    high draft pick.
    Bolles isn't the typical 1st round draft pick. This was well known when they picked him. Bolles played two years at a 2 year college and 1 year at Utah. Not exactly, an All Pro path. Do you think he should have been ready after his single year at Utah just because he was picked in the first round? That logic doesn't make sense. Getting picked in a particular round doesn't follow a formula for everyone. If there was ever a project player, it is him! He also had a really troubled life with drugs, alcoholism, violence, and gangs. He has turned his life around pretty nicely and I think he is thankful to be in his position and finally has his head on straight. You should give him credit for how hard he has worked to get where he has gotten so far! Did you see him practically pick up that rushing Chargers defender and throw him to the ground? I've never heard of or seen that before. No one on our team is tier 1 at any position, though we have a couple that are close so for now, Bolles isn't that far off. Draft a couple of tackles and let Bolles fight for his starter position, but when he wins it, you can still expect some holding penalties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantaztic7 View Post
    Thanks for pointing out another bad penalty by Bolles. There are exceptions and that was one of them. Youíve pointed out one example, so Iíll ask again - of all holding penalties, how many resulted in the offense converting for a first down vs punt? To keep it to Bolles, how many times did they convert after his holding penalties?
    Like I said, Lock is not Flacco. In the last 4 games, Lock won 3 (75%). In the previous 11 games Flacco won 3 (27%). Sure TD throws that were overthrown, or dropped passes, or fumbles, INTs, an other penalties. It is all part of the game, so I can't tell you how much specific penalties on one player hurt the team because I don't have an axe to grind on any player. I see a high percentage of wins and let the coaches work with their players on Monday to review the video. You can focus on Bolles and we'll enjoy the wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantaztic7 View Post
    Thanks for pointing out another bad penalty by Bolles. There are exceptions and that was one of them. Youíve pointed out one example, so Iíll ask again - of all holding penalties, how many resulted in the offense converting for a first down vs punt? To keep it to Bolles, how many times did they convert after his holding penalties?
    Quote Originally Posted by haciendadad View Post
    Bolles isn't the typical 1st round draft pick. This was well known when they picked him. Bolles played two years at a 2 year college and 1 year at Utah. Not exactly, an All Pro path. Do you think he should have been ready after his single year at Utah just because he was picked in the first round? That logic doesn't make sense. Getting picked in a particular round doesn't follow a formula for everyone. If there was ever a project player, it is him! He also had a really troubled life with drugs, alcoholism, violence, and gangs. He has turned his life around pretty nicely and I think he is thankful to be in his position and finally has his head on straight. You should give him credit for how hard he has worked to get where he has gotten so far! Did you see him practically pick up that rushing Chargers defender and throw him to the ground? I've never heard of or seen that before. No one on our team is tier 1 at any position, though we have a couple that are close so for now, Bolles isn't that far off. Draft a couple of tackles and let Bolles fight for his starter position, but when he wins it, you can still expect some holding penalties.
    Again, how many first downs were converted after holding penalties by Bolles this season?

    Where are you getting the notion of expecting Bolles to be great after one season? Donít assert a false narrative - heís played 47 games and hasnít shown significant improvement. If he made consistent improvement he wouldnít be drawing criticism.

    Ryan Ramczyk didnít start his college career at a Power 5 school and heís vastly outperformed Bolles.

    Iíve given credit to Bolles for being a durable player. Itís not enough to work hard, it has to translate to consistently good/above average play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantaztic7 View Post
    He’s played 47 games and hasn’t shown significant improvement. If he made consistent improvement he wouldn’t be drawing criticism.
    Just remember, some people go out on a limb early on in predicting a player will be good/great (creating threads), are fans of said player from the jump (Bolles), and it will always be hard for them to acknowledge what you have said here when it goes against their initial opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnlimburg View Post
    Just remember, some people go out on a limb early on in predicting a player will be good/great (creating threads), are fans of said player from the jump (Bolles), and it will always be hard for them to acknowledge what you have said here when it goes against their initial opinion.
    Thatís a great reminder. Bottom-line is that Bolles hasnít improved in a meaningful way over three years. Is it possible he can improve with more time with Munchak? Anything is possible. He improved some over the back half last season only to regress the first half this season. Bolles had nine holding penalties in the first seven games this season. Justifying the holding penalties by saying itís better than allowing the QB to be hit doesnít make him a better player.

    Lock being more mobile and making quicker throws doesnít make Bolles better, it masks poor play. Iím excited seeing Lock flash and show potential. If heís the guy to develop why not give him better odds to succeed with a good blind side tackle? Bolles has not consistently protected the passer, nor been a good run blocker - as in consistently good.

    If the Broncos are going to complete for the AFC West we need much better play on the line.

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    Hopefully today's games was his last as a Bronco.
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    May stay as a backup, but starter not !

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    Anyone who thinks he will not be starting in 2020 for the Broncos is obviously hoping the Broncos get better at OL talent acquisition this off-season. Considering we got a good one in Risner we due for 2-3 years of bad ones.
    A good plan put into motion today is better than the ideal plan that is always coming sometime in the future.

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    That penalty on him at the end was a bad call, but he is an idiot for even putting himself in that situation. Bolles is easily one of the dumbest players in the NFL, and hopefully that was his last start at tackle here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadez View Post
    Anyone who thinks he will not be starting in 2020 for the Broncos is obviously hoping the Broncos get better at OL talent acquisition this off-season. Considering we got a good one in Risner we due for 2-3 years of bad ones.
    Is there data to support this ? This is a priority FIX for this team to not have another lackluster season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colowoz View Post
    Is there data to support this ? This is a priority FIX for this team to not have another lackluster season.
    I am not speaking of rocket science, difficult math or sources difficult to find.

    Look at our OL history since the OL has been a priority in 2015
    A good plan put into motion today is better than the ideal plan that is always coming sometime in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colowoz View Post
    Is there data to support this ? This is a priority FIX for this team to not have another lackluster season.
    I think he is saying that he agrees that offensive line should be the priority, but based on Elways terrible record at acquiring offensive lineman, we are due for a couple of bad ones after Risner had a decent rookie season.

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    Trade him for Cody Ford......we can throw in wadman, wisdom and Freeman to sweeten the deal...
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    Hopefully with the 15 pick in the draft , we go after the best Offensive lineman available. The scouts, player analyst etc need to do a better job. Lets not spend millions on free agents that become available and are other teams players that are allowed to walk. (reasons for this) .

    We have a great O-Line coach that has almost made Bolles a better player. Let him do his magic.

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    If Trent Williams is released they should go after him. They need veterans on the offensive line especially protecting Lockís blindside.

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