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    Lindsay.

    FYI Broncos: Lindsey needs a bump in pay. He may still be the best back we have.

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    Perhaps, Von is willing to take a reduced salary to help pay for Lindsay?

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    He doesn't "need" anything. He is still under contract for this year and will be a restricted FA the year after. If the team wants, he will be here until 2022 and for cheap. The team may feel like doing him a favor, financially, but there is no real incentive for them to give an arbitrary raise to the backup RB.

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    He put pen to paper signing his contract and the Broncos don't have to do anything this year, per Lindsay. He is being a pro and a man who's going to honor his contract. But, it would be good to see him get a bump for his value the last couple of years.

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    Obviously this is the trouble with football contracts compared to other sports. With all money guaranteed in baseball and basketball these convos don't happen. Lindsey has outplayed his contract, has a very short shelf life, and plays a position that doesn't pay well. Does he have every right to desire more money and hold out? Absolutely. Does he have every right to go to the top payer once he is a FA? Absolutely. Is he a bad person for wanting to get paid while he can in his career? Nope.

    Everyone on here who says he signed a contract and he needs to honor it never says that when a player gets cut prematurely for poor performance. Not paying or extending players like Lindsey will in turn not provide "happy thoughts" about the organization by the player. I think Wolfe and Harris are examples of people who out-performed team friendly contracts that aren't necessarily fond of the broncos now.

    Do these attitudes mean they are selfish or greedy, not at all, because if they sucked after signing their deals, Mr. Elway would've cut their behinds quicker than a snap of the fingers. Football players easily have the worst union and CBA of all 3 major sports

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    We have done this dance already, nothing at all needs to happen with Lindsay. The Broncos pretty much own Lindsay for the foreseeable future, and Linsday has no leverage to play any games to change that. But he wont hold out or create waves anyway, it makes no sense from his side to do it, and anyone worried about it shouldn't be, Lindsay is here as long as the Broncos decide. Here is a brief summary of the other 2 threads this has been discussed:

    Argument 1: You can re-sign undrafted rookies after 2 seasons.

    Response: It's never happened though, and no agent has any reference point what so ever to approach team management to argue their client should be extended. An agent wont even try because they know if demands are not giving into, they have no leverage, what are they going to ?

    Argument 2: Someone will poach Lindsay if we just tender him next off-season.

    Response: No one is giving up a first or second round pick for Lindsay plus a contract. The last running back RFA tendered and signed elsewhere was when Gilislee went from the Bills to the Patriots, and he was tendered at his original round, a late round pick. This doesn't happen.

    Argument 3: The team will revolt, show the locker room you take care of your guys.

    Response: You think players will care that Lindsay isn't getting extended after 2 seasons in the league when they have to wait 4 ? No other player is going to be annoyed that Lindsay has to wait just like them, it's a non-issue.

    Argument 4: Other UDFA players wont come here if we don't take care of Lindsay.

    Response: A guy who just went undrafted is going to jump at any opportunity where an NFL contract and a good roster situation is presented, think about where an undrafted guys head is at right after the draft, he is desperate and has zero leverage.

    Argument 5: Lindsay could just hold out.

    Response: Maybe Lindsay could ask his new running mate Melvin Gordon how that works out ? Maybe Lindsay has noticed that running backs have zero bargaining power in the NFL, and when they hold out into the season, it doesn't work.

    Argument 6: Just do it, take care of him, it's a nice thing to do

    Response: Teams don't care about this, it's a business. I wouldn't mind Phillip getting a small bump in pay, maybe 3 million per season, but it doesn't need to happen, and he doesn't need to be catered to. I love Phillip, but the position he plays, his value isn't that high on an open market, and on a trade market, it's even lower.

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    I like him , he plays with fire . He protects the ball and he for sure plays like hes bigger . I think hes fine where his pay is now . It took him a whole season to hit 1k yards and he needed every bit of 16 games. He is not a top tier RB as of now.

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    Probably should have used those "throw away" millions we gave to CHJ for no reason...

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    Hes one of those guys you want on your team, however if hes going to get paid well he really needs to become more effective in the receiving game, not only were his hands iffy, but his route running was fairly poor at times.

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    Good news regarding Philip Lindsay

    Good news regarding Philip Lindsay
    Earlier in the week Dmac reported that Philip Lindsay was dissatisfied with his contract in Denver and the end result may have resulted in a trade.

    According to Brandon Stokely and Mike Klis those rumors are false and I can testify by that I heard Stokely himself on the radio say that Mike McCarthy did in fact call John Elway the moment Melvin Gordon was signed.

    Elway supposedly responded by sayingtrading Philip Lindsay at this time is not whats best for the Denver Broncos at this time!

    So like the meme says, yall can rest easy Philip Lindsay is not going anywhere.

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    Good to hear if true, but why would the Cowboys want to trade for a RB especially after drafting Pollard to play behind Zeke?

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    this is good news taking i love lindsey and i have one his jersey. i hope he stays a bronco along time. plus his explosiveness adds to this offensive.

    oakland raders gm
    latavis murray trade bait

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor View Post
    Hes one of those guys you want on your team, however if hes going to get paid well he really needs to become more effective in the receiving game, not only were his hands iffy, but his route running was fairly poor at times.
    Hopefully the fact he is working with run cmc over the offseason will help with that

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    The only reason to extend him now vs later other than maybe garnering some good standing with other UDFAs coming into the league would be to avoid having to do a new deal when hes 28. Right now you can give him a 4 year contract and by the end of the contract hed be 30 which is typically when you want to move on from RBs, plus you could have potential outs in year 3/4 when hes 28/29 (turning 30). If you wait until hes 28 (turning 29) you potentially run into the issue of the length of the contract being an issue for him. Of course we could still walk away or let him test the market but would likely have a soft market given his age and while that isnt necessarily our issue, Id still like to see us reward him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beastlyskronk View Post
    Good to hear if true, but why would the Cowboys want to trade for a RB especially after drafting Pollard to play behind Zeke?
    Yeah , right ?!

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