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    This the year we finally go LB in rd 1?

    Not a big fan of the guy making the mock but figured we could talk about the prediction

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-take-qb-wr-rb


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    Kenneth Murray - LB
    School: Oklahoma | Year: Junior

    I had an NFL GM tell me at the combine that Murray was the best interview subject he's had in years. Teams love what they see on film, but Murray might be an even better leader and person. The Broncos obviously already have two absolute studs on defense in Von Miller and Bradley Chubb. Make it three with Murray.

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    Saw another mock stating Queen as the Broncos pick. Prefer Murray if that is how the draft unfolds. Great player and fills a need.

    Would be comical to see them choose a LB this year. For the first time in several years it is not my preferred choice so they probably will.

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    Fansided also has us taking Murray:

    1. First round: Kenneth Murray, LB, Oklahoma
    The Broncos could have selected Michigan linebacker Devin Bush in the 2019 NFL Draft, and instead they traded down to stockpile picks.

    This year, with Todd Davis entering a contract year and the need for speed at linebacker still evident, the Broncos could look to the quarterback of the Oklahoma defense — Kenneth Murray — to be their new signal-caller defensively.

    Murray is a stud of an athlete, a tackling machine, and a weapon on third down both in coverage and as a pass rusher.

    https://fansided.com/2020/03/06/2020...-7-round-mock/
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    wouldnt 15 be a little high for him? most of what i have seen has him at early to mid 20s

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    Sleek, playmaking linebacker with chiseled frame and long arms. Murray's game is predicated on speed with an ability to fly around from sideline to sideline rolling up tackles. While his twitchy burst allows him to make more plays than the average linebacker, he will overflow to ball-carriers at times. Recognition of play development and ability to take on blocks are both underdeveloped currently, but a move to weak-side linebacker would put him in position to minimize those concerns and maximize his playmaking talent. Murray has hit-or-miss qualities and is more splashy than consistent, but he's immensely talented with the ability to imprint on games on all three downs.

    Strengths
    Playmaking speed to mark up a stat sheet
    Very decisive and willing to take chances
    Runs and moves like a safety in space
    Fires into gaps and can put offenses behind the chains
    Averaged nearly 15 tackles for loss over last two years
    Can make all the tackles if kept clean
    Weaves and rolls downhill to close the distance on running backs
    Ridiculous range from sideline to sideline
    Instant burst to the ball from a standstill
    Scrape speed to stay square to the line of scrimmage
    Can spy, blitz or rush off the edge on passing downs

    Weaknesses
    Needs to temper urgency with additional patience
    Misdirected out of position multiple times by same play against Kansas State
    Instincts and fit recognition are spotty as inside linebacker
    Desire to make plays clouds judgment on angles
    Must improve strength and hand usage for take-on duties
    Can be erased from gaps by a square block
    Needs to play with better balance and control as open-field tackler
    Hard flows turn to overflows
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    Quote Originally Posted by EddieMac View Post
    Sleek, playmaking linebacker with chiseled frame and long arms. Murray's game is predicated on speed with an ability to fly around from sideline to sideline rolling up tackles. While his twitchy burst allows him to make more plays than the average linebacker, he will overflow to ball-carriers at times. Recognition of play development and ability to take on blocks are both underdeveloped currently, but a move to weak-side linebacker would put him in position to minimize those concerns and maximize his playmaking talent. Murray has hit-or-miss qualities and is more splashy than consistent, but he's immensely talented with the ability to imprint on games on all three downs.

    Strengths
    Playmaking speed to mark up a stat sheet
    Very decisive and willing to take chances
    Runs and moves like a safety in space
    Fires into gaps and can put offenses behind the chains
    Averaged nearly 15 tackles for loss over last two years
    Can make all the tackles if kept clean
    Weaves and rolls downhill to close the distance on running backs
    Ridiculous range from sideline to sideline
    Instant burst to the ball from a standstill
    Scrape speed to stay square to the line of scrimmage
    Can spy, blitz or rush off the edge on passing downs

    Weaknesses
    Needs to temper urgency with additional patience
    Misdirected out of position multiple times by same play against Kansas State
    Instincts and fit recognition are spotty as inside linebacker
    Desire to make plays clouds judgment on angles
    Must improve strength and hand usage for take-on duties
    Can be erased from gaps by a square block
    Needs to play with better balance and control as open-field tackler
    Hard flows turn to overflows
    Great break down thank you.

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    I’ve seen him tied to us in a few mo is too..

    Don’t know enough about him..but seems a bit of a reach
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    I feel like we already have a Kenneth Murray on our team in AJ Johnson. I also don't feel like Todd Davis is necessarily bad, we just need a rotational guy who can play the nickel and cover whether that be a S or LB. Reaching for a LB at #15 would be bad, although I like Murray as a prospect with his sideline-to-sideline explosiveness and strong instincts. LB is a secondary need for me behind WR, CB, and C. Other secondary needs would be OT, NT, and S.
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    If we do, I believe Murray would be the pick. He possesses the high-character and leadership traits that the Fangio/Elway pairing seem to value. So does Logan Wilson, though, who I would prefer taking later in the draft after taking Jeudy/Jefferson/Ruggs in the first.

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    I am good with ILB, but not at 15 (given Simmons won't be there). I'd prefer we trade back and get a WR and ILB with our first 2 picks, if ILB is high on our list. But sure, I've advocated for a quality, D leader ILB for years, and pretty much have given up. But maybe this is the year. Murray and Queen seem to be good candidates in our draft zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanDB View Post
    I am good with ILB, but not at 15 (given Simmons won't be there). I'd prefer we trade back and get a WR and ILB with our first 2 picks, if ILB is high on our list. But sure, I've advocated for a quality, D leader ILB for years, and pretty much have given up. But maybe this is the year. Murray and Queen seem to be good candidates in our draft zone.
    Imo, this scenario has more odds of happening then any other. Unless we get a top 10 dropper. But I think JE liked what he did last year. Besides, after considering his trade up drafts in the first rounds, he will probably stay away from them.

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    I would be surprised if the Broncos selected an Inside Backer at #15. I hope they draft one by #118 at the very latest.
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    Would be a bold and out of character move for Elway to take a LB in the first couple rounds. Not seeing it.

    My personal favorite would be Troy Dye with a late 3rd. Maybe the 4th? Undersized but makes plays. would be a great coverage LB in certain coverages for a season as a backup. Hopefully can earn the starting spot as he develops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FR Tim View Post
    Would be a bold and out of character move for Elway to take a LB in the first couple rounds. Not seeing it.

    My personal favorite would be Troy Dye with a late 3rd. Maybe the 4th? Undersized but makes plays. would be a great coverage LB in certain coverages for a season as a backup. Hopefully can earn the starting spot as he develops.
    I re-visited Elway's draft patterns and browsed old threads on here... and quite frankly, I don't think Elway values LBs early at all. Elway trading out of #10 last year and passing on Devin Bush told us everything we should have known all along (remember picking Bolles over Reuben Foster in 2017?). Even if LB is considered a need, there will always be value in the mid rounds for a linebacker that Elway likes (or will fit the defensive scheme). I do not see Elway trying to bring in a rookie starting LB in 2020. Todd Davis has always been underrated by BCMB despite being one of the most productive tacklers for DEN for 4 years now and doing all the dirty work in terms of taking on blocks and stopping the run. The argument here is, "Who is going to stop Travis Kelce?" The problem is-- not many players (let alone defenses) in the NFL can. It would be poor coaching if Davis is assigned to do something that does not maximize his strengths, such as covering TEs downfield. And even then, he isn't a total liability in the passing game like everyone makes him out to be. Davis was excellent at containing receiving backs out of the backfield and spying on the QB.

    I think losing Will Parks was one of the biggest losses for our defense (apart from CHJ of course) due to his versatility. He was crucial playing as the nickel back and sometimes lining up in the box. I like Troy Dye as a guy who can cover the seam and take on other coverage responsibilities on passing downs. I also like Akeem Davis-Gaither in that sense as well. Both prospects can rotate in on certain situations and should not be relied on heavily during their rookie years. If we are to add a LB in the draft, I would see that player being brought in to compete with Josey Jewell for defensive snaps. If we want to add a Will Parks-type of safety, I like K'Von Wallace and Antoine Brooks Jr. in the 4th-5th round. Both guys can cover nickel or provide run support/blitzing in the box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HDbroncos02 View Post
    I re-visited Elway's draft patterns and browsed old threads on here... and quite frankly, I don't think Elway values LBs early at all. Elway trading out of #10 last year and passing on Devin Bush told us everything we should have known all along (remember picking Bolles over Reuben Foster in 2017?). Even if LB is considered a need, there will always be value in the mid rounds for a linebacker that Elway likes (or will fit the defensive scheme). I do not see Elway trying to bring in a rookie starting LB in 2020. Todd Davis has always been underrated by BCMB despite being one of the most productive tacklers for DEN for 4 years now and doing all the dirty work in terms of taking on blocks and stopping the run. The argument here is, "Who is going to stop Travis Kelce?" The problem is-- not many players (let alone defenses) in the NFL can. It would be poor coaching if Davis is assigned to do something that does not maximize his strengths, such as covering TEs downfield. And even then, he isn't a total liability in the passing game like everyone makes him out to be. Davis was excellent at containing receiving backs out of the backfield and spying on the QB.

    I think losing Will Parks was one of the biggest losses for our defense (apart from CHJ of course) due to his versatility. He was crucial playing as the nickel back and sometimes lining up in the box. I like Troy Dye as a guy who can cover the seam and take on other coverage responsibilities on passing downs. I also like Akeem Davis-Gaither in that sense as well. Both prospects can rotate in on certain situations and should not be relied on heavily during their rookie years. If we are to add a LB in the draft, I would see that player being brought in to compete with Josey Jewell for defensive snaps. If we want to add a Will Parks-type of safety, I like K'Von Wallace and Antoine Brooks Jr. in the 4th-5th round. Both guys can cover nickel or provide run support/blitzing in the box.
    The best Bronco Backer coverage of TEs I can recall seeing was Al Wilson. They ran Tampa 2 with Mike taking the seam receiver which was most often the Y. He was good at it.

    The best Bronco Safety coverage of a TE I can recall seeing was Josh Barrett covering Tony Gonzalez in Cover 1. Tony didn't catch a pass when Josh was covering him in that game.

    Backers covering Y receivers in man is asking a lot. I get the impression that Vic Fangio likes his Backers to play short zones when the call puts them in coverage. That is a much more suitable way to put Backers in position to adequately cover eligible receivers IMO.

    Like you, I think Denver's Safeties might be a better choice to cover Y receivers than a Backer.
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