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    Mcd or VJ

    I know...I know...but there isn't a lot of other things to talk about now so...

    If you had to choose a head coach for the Broncos for the next 5 seasons to win games (not a 5 year tank) and you could only choose either VJ or Mcd who would you pick? Why?

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    I might have to change teams or just stop watching football, in this situation.
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    VJ was pretty bad schematically and as a game manager, but at least he respected the players in the locker room and vice versa. The three-game stretch in 2018 where we nearly fought our way back into playoff contention with inspiring wins against SD, PIT, and CIN was the most faith I had in VJ. I believe he had the misfortune of inheriting a very incomplete and uncompetitive roster in his two years here. He is nowhere near Vic Fangio level though, but I would much rather have VJ over McDaniels.
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    VJ because I enjoyed his press conferences you could really see his enthusiasm for the game .
    I donít think there was anything wrong with him as a hc he just came to the wrong franchise at the wrong time imo , I say this without actually knowing how big a hand he had in the Case Keenum acquisition though which was clearly a mistake .

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    I'm pretty sure it was the same person.

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    Isn't this a bit like asking a kid what they like better......broccoli or spinach?






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    Quote Originally Posted by CanDB View Post
    Isn't this a bit like asking a kid what they like better......broccoli or spinach?
    Actually some kids like me love both. How about sheep brains or goat liver?
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    Maybe we go with VJ running Great Practices and McD for Actual Games?

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    Iíll be in the minority but I think Iíd go with McD of the two. I think eventually his smarts with the Xs and Os would shine through. He was in a tough position from the beginning with the whole Cutler ordeal and then the 6-0 start with Orton definitely went to his head and his ego got out of control. Iím not sure how much of which side I believe on the whole Cutler/McD debate and while a hot start with Cutler may have cooled that fire, McDaniels wasnít ready for that success. Maybe a slower start with Orton wouldíve led to better results long term.

    I think he had a pretty decent eye for talent as well, the first draft was bad but I donít think he had as much time to prepare because the 2nd draft was night and day compared to the first.

    Joseph just looked lost, he still looks lost as a defensive coordinator. Iím not sure heíll ever figure out how to cover TEs and somehow someway he will ruin Simmons. Just his whole defense in general was just frustrating to watch, I canít tell you how many times I saw Todd Davis manned up against a WR and it wasnít even disguised. And his adjustments were nonexistent, I remember he had Mahomes rattled in the first half and he was just alternating safety blitzes. Reid adjusted and started ripping the defense up and Joseph continued to call the same plays. And the whole love affair with McKenzie

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    McDaniels. He, at least, has been involved as a coordinator with his side of the ball performing at an above average level. I think VJ's best year as a coordinator saw his defense ranked 22nd?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lvbronx View Post
    I know...I know...but there isn't a lot of other things to talk about now so...

    If you had to choose a head coach for the Broncos for the next 5 seasons to win games (not a 5 year tank) and you could only choose either VJ or Mcd who would you pick? Why?

    "Oh the humanity!" - Herbert Morrison
    Why are these the only choices? In what alternate universe would these be the only choices?
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    Quote Originally Posted by samparnell View Post
    Why are these the only choices? In what alternate universe would these be the only choices?
    Because I was interested in the responses to this question. My posting the question in no way limits any other questions to be asked or choices offered to those questions. To answer your question directly, this thread is the "alternate universe".

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    Quote Originally Posted by lvbronx View Post
    I know...I know...but there isn't a lot of other things to talk about now so...

    If you had to choose a head coach for the Broncos for the next 5 seasons to win games (not a 5 year tank) and you could only choose either VJ or Mcd who would you pick? Why?

    "Oh the humanity!" - Herbert Morrison
    Ok I will play

    Neither. I would rather the players be in control than to have either of those two head coaches.

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    If I absolutely had to choose and werenít allowed to switch allegiances or give up watching football, I go Vance Joseph.

    This is assuming he still gets Drew Lock and the current offensive talent.

    I will trust him to learn from his previous mistakes more than McNuggets.

    Letís be real, he didnít get much help from the offensive side of the ball. That canít be laid entirely at his feet since it is Elway that builds the roster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lvbronx View Post
    Because I was interested in the responses to this question. My posting the question in no way limits any other questions to be asked or choices offered to those questions. To answer your question directly, this thread is the "alternate universe".
    OK. Thanks for the clarification. I vote for Vic Fangio.
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