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    Quote Originally Posted by icedutah View Post
    If the teams docs can actually get Hyrdoxy Chloroquine on hand for the players than there is no worries. The stuff is great! Forget what the Facebook and CNN docs say. Listen to the actual front line doctors and real proof.
    Can you share any studies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by icedutah View Post
    If the teams docs can actually get Hyrdoxy Chloroquine on hand for the players than there is no worries. The stuff is great! Forget what the Facebook and CNN docs say. Listen to the actual front line doctors and real proof.
    Every medication a doctor gives comes with a consideration of benefits, do other drugs give similar benefits, and weighing that against the side effects of the drug being considering and the side effects of other drugs with similar benefits.

    With that in mind and basing my opinion mostly on counties outside of the USA who really do not care what our leaders say....I would not let a doctor give me Hyrdoxy Chloroquine if I tested positive for Covid-19. There is a chance I would consider it if I went to the ICU (if things were getting desperate). I do not like the problems studies in other countries were showing which were so bad they stopped the studies.

    I have seen equally reputable reports from doctors about asthma medication as Hyrdoxy Chloroquine. I do not distrust doctors and their experience with their patients...but that is not science.
    Last edited by Hadez; 07-30-2020 at 11:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 58Miller View Post
    Can you share any studies?
    Here's a video from a couple days ago from real frontline docs. I had a family member use this and they got over the virus in 1 day! HCQ has been around for 65 years for Lupus, RA and Malaria so we know it's sides. They aren't really much. Any studies you see where it says it's bad look a the dose they used. Typically like 2400mg per day! That is too much. Very misleading studies. Most get over Covid using like 200mg per week or every other day. I'll find some of my articles on studies also for you. [URL="https://seed122.*****ute.com/uodF3ygizxSy/09K3kIwzeewO.mp4[/URL] replace the * * * with the b-i-t-ch-u-t-e domain. They don't like this info out as it goes against the CNN narrative
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverBlood View Post
    Floodgates are opening now for players opting out. Several from around the league. Iím sure many more will follow.
    If the 2020 NFL season does happen and depending on the amount and quality of players opting out, will that throw some asterisks on some teams, some games and even the season? Just wondering if enough of the best aren't on the field how will teams and the season be judged?
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    Quote Originally Posted by icedutah View Post
    If the teams docs can actually get Hyrdoxy Chloroquine on hand for the players than there is no worries. The stuff is great! Forget what the Facebook and CNN docs say. Listen to the actual front line doctors and real proof.
    WHAT? Are you being sarcastic? How about bonafide medical clinical studies showing that crap doesn't work for Covid 19 and has dangerous side effects.
    Utah Bronco Freak

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    Quote Originally Posted by icedutah View Post
    If the teams docs can actually get Hyrdoxy Chloroquine on hand for the players than there is no worries. The stuff is great! Forget what the Facebook and CNN docs say. Listen to the actual front line doctors and real proof.
    Not a wise call given the extensive evidence against it. Works better on demons and aliens.

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    An article about the Broncos and what they are doing

    https://www.9news.com/article/sports...6-b1a03f0f593c

    Author: Mike Klis


    ENGLEWOOD, Colo. — For training camp starters, the Broncos’ 80 players will dress in two locker rooms.

    About two-thirds will set up at least 6 feet apart in the regular locker room at the team’s UCHealth Training Center headquarters. The rest will dress two practice fields away in the Pat Bowlen Fieldhouse.

    No wait. That wasn’t the start. Before the players entered the team facilities, they were administered the COVID-19 test in a vacant racquetball court building – what had been the 9NEWS studio at Dove Valley. Players also have to answer a screening questionnaire related to COVID-19.

    No wait. That wasn’t the start. Before Broncos training camp commenced in various stages -- rookies, quarterbacks and rehabbing injured veterans started taking physicals Monday and veteran players reported for COVID-19 testing Tuesday -- the place was thoroughly cleaned out. Fumigated. Broncos headquarters was closed to all personnel – including general manager John Elway, head coach Vic Fangio and all other coaches, executives, and staff employees – last Tuesday and Wednesday so the facilities could undergo a deep cleaning, sanitation and disinfection service.

    > Above video: Broncos player rep McManus says financial issues remain but believes NFL 'season is going to start on time'

    In an attempt to make their facilities as safe as possible for their players, coaches and personnel against the threat of coronavirus, the Broncos are leaving no crevice in the deepest corners unattended.

    When Brittany Bowlen was hired by the Broncos as senior vice president of strategic initiatives in early December, skeptics may have thought her title superfluous, an abstract placeholder until she was deemed ready to replace her late father Pat Bowlen as the team’s controlling owner.



    Then came the worldwide spread of the deadly coronavirus in mid-March. Brittany Bowlen was assigned to head the team’s COVID-19 task force. She put together a 32-page, 10,000-plus word Infectious Disease Emergency Response report that is both comprehensively detailed yet concise and easy to understand. It covers every nook, cranny and scenario in ensuring the Broncos have a safe training camp environment.

    “The Broncos sent their plan to the NFLPA,’’ said kicker and player rep Brandon McManus, “and they said it was one of the better ones.”

    The team’s Infectious Disease Emergency Response (IDER) plan has been approved by the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment and was one of the first among the 32 teams to be accepted by the league and players union.

    Among the safeguards and protocols the Broncos are to follow not only during training camp, but throughout the 2020 season:

    Meeting rooms
    The team is to make sure the meeting rooms are cleaned and disinfected before and after each use.
    Players will sit 6 feet apart.
    Full team meetings will be held in the spacious Pat Bowlen Fieldhouse.
    Weight room building
    A limited number of players and coaches from Loren Landow’s strength and conditioning staff can be in the weight facility at one time.
    The facility is to be cleaned and disinfected before and after each use.
    A fogging application will be administered each night.


    Cafeteria
    Players will eat in two shifts.
    All cafeteria personnel must wear masks and gloves at all times.
    There will no longer be a buffet setup. Instead players will place their orders to servers standing behind plexiglass-protected food stations.
    The snack bar station also will have a server to hand over such orders as water, Gatorade, coffee, protein shakes, yogurt and other snacks.
    Each night, a fogging application will be administered to all tables, seats and food-serving surfaces.
    Off-site accommodations
    No player will be required to stay at a team hotel. If a player needs to stay at hotel (usually rookies), one will be provided. The hotel will be cleaned, sanitized and disinfected on a daily basis per COVID-19 regulations.
    Locker rooms
    The custodial staff will clean and disinfect high-touch areas three times a day.
    Lockers and shower heads will be spaced at least 6 feet apart. A limited number of players can shower at one time. Every other shower head has been disabled.
    Fogging applications will be administered while the team is on the practice field and again each night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 58Miller View Post
    Can you share any studies?
    ✅Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/

    ✅Early Hydroxychloroquine Is Associated with an Increase of Survival in COVID-19 Patients: An Observational Study , https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202005.0057/v1

    ✅Early treatment of COVID-19 patients with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin: A retrospective analysis of 1061 cases in Marseille, France https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...77893920302179 , http://archive.is/VEdFi

    Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine as inhibitors of human immunodeficiency virus (HIV-1) activity. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15320751

    Hydroxychloroquine Improves Obesity-Associated Insulin Resistance and Hepatic Steatosis by Regulating Lipid Metabolism https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6689966/

    ✅Chloroquine Is a Zinc Ionophore https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4182877/

    Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are associated with reduced cardiovascular risk: a systematic review and meta-analysis https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6001837/ , Drug Des Devel Ther. 2018; 12: 1685Ė1695, Published online 2018 Jun 11. doi: 10.2147/DDDT.S166893

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16115318/

    Chloroquine Is a Potent Inhibitor of SARS Coronavirus Infection and Spread

    Here's the new study incoming:

    https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news...treat-covid-19

    NIH begins clinical trial of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin to treat COVID-19

    To keep track of the study, look here:

    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04358068

    Evaluating the Efficacy of Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin to Prevent Hospitalization or Death in Persons With COVID-19

    Collaborator: Teva Pharmaceuticals Industries LTD

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16115318

    and

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15351731

    Hydroxychloroquine can be prescribed to adults and children of all ages. It can also be safely taken by pregnant women and nursing mothers.

    https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/resource...hloroquine.pdf

    as anti cancer agent

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5718030/

    https://archive.is/kQq0o

    google doc detailed summary

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...N1aDjY/preview

    doctor vid

    https://gofile.io/d/0Y3zQu

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    Bills rookies sent home after 5th positive test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronco51 View Post
    Bills rookies sent home after 5th positive test.
    Good!!!! That means the testing is preventing the spread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 58Miller View Post
    Good!!!! That means the testing is preventing the spread!
    By sending all of the Rookies home? I fail to see how you view this as a positive thing. What happens when vets test positive? We send entire teams home and tell them sucks to be you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverBlood View Post
    By sending all of the Rookies home? I fail to see how you view this as a positive thing. What happens when vets test positive? We send entire teams home and tell them sucks to be you?
    This is why you send them home now. Resolve the infection. Then we can return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_C View Post
    This is why you send them home now. Resolve the infection. Then we can return.
    But how does that guarantee it wonít happen again later on some other team? That was my point.

    Itís Bills rookies this week. What happens when itís the Buccaneers or Raiders vets in two weeks? You just shut the whole thing down for that team?

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    MLB is not making me optimistic about the football season going off without a problem. Another team has COVID positive members. Causing more postponements. And then we have to see what happens with the team they were playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronco51 View Post
    MLB is not making me optimistic about the football season going off without a problem. Another team has COVID positive members. Causing more postponements. And then we have to see what happens with the team they were playing.
    I totally agree, and I wish I didn't feel this way. For me baseball is doing the worst of the major league sports who have returned. The 60 game season is inadequate in my opinion. It reminds me of how many games I used to play when we had our season plus tournaments, and I was not a pro. It gives little opportunity for a team to have a comeback, which is a common element of sports. But worse, after all the planning, a Florida team has added much anxiety in what's ahead.

    The Blue Jays (for example) are still upgrading their affiliate field - Buffalo, to be their home team as a result of Canada's wise refusal to allow teams from coming and going. Now The Jays are missing one or more games against The Phillies because of virus affected staff members of that team, as a result of The Marlins visit. And when the Buffalo stadium is expected to be ready, The Jays are scheduled to play The Marlins. That might be in jeopardy.

    Throw in some injuries and more virus related issues, and the season soon becomes an obstacle course.

    Having said that, I believe The NHL and possibly The NBA have got this right so far. Time will tell.

    The NFL must learn from everything going on, otherwise they will have failed to appreciate the time and learning that should work in their favour.

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