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  1. #31
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    That is for sure. In some cultures it's ok to sell your body out for sex and then yell rape trying to extort people cause their mummy and daddy are wealthy and they think they can cash in. Those cultures should go the way of the dinosaurs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dry Kill Logic
    That is for sure. In some cultures it's ok to sell your body out for sex and then yell rape trying to extort people cause their mummy and daddy are wealthy and they think they can cash in. Those cultures should go the way of the dinosaurs.
    This guy has lost his damn mind.

    "Thank your grandpa for my cotton shirt!" was heard by a neighbor... But I guess they were in on it too.
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    I voted for Bush twice!

    And I'm not very happy that I did. However, in my opinion it was the lesser of two evils, or idiots.

    Here's what I have against my President. He has up till now, like almost every other politician in power, ignored the Illigal Immigrant issue. And his solution to give them amnesty, and welcome them with open arms is clearly just pandering to his rich business constiuants. Those who benefit from employing the 11 million Illegals with little pay, and no benefits.

    The bulk of legal immigrants, and natural born citizens have made their position clear on this. We are tired of supporting peope who just come here to send OUR money back to other countries! Yet HIS position is to just let it continue, and on top of that, to let it grow!

    What has he done to stop the flow of illegals into our country? What steps has he taken to reduce those who are already here? What steps has he taken to prevent them from commiting crime in our country?

    I could list several example of things I dislike about George Bush.

    On the flip side, I could list several things I LIKE about him! But the question is what do I have against him. I have had this against the last several Presidents.

    I support my President because he IS my President, regardless of which party he represents. And regardless of my not liking his position on certian issues, and liking his position on others.

    Show me someone who REALLY cares about the people, and I'll go out and vote for HIM, or HER, and not just against guy running against him.

    That would be a nice change..............

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    [QUOTE=RoorRipper]This guy has lost his damn mind.

    "Thank your grandpa for my cotton shirt!" was heard by a neighbor... But I guess they were in on it too.


    A second this opinion.
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    I partially agree with JWinn. Also voted for Bush twice. Up until recently, thought Bush was doing a good job. He's overcome a lot of adversity since coming into office. We were sliding into recission, then 9/11 hit, and the world changed.
    Things I like:
    1. Managed to create jobs-jobless rate is now 4.8% (the lowest in decades)

    2.Liberated over 25 million people from oppressive regimes (Taliban and Hussein)

    3. Our economy is the envy of the world.

    4. I like his moral clarity. He's been saying the same message since elected, and he stuck to that same message and was re-elected.

    5. He put two people on the Supreme Court that I think will do us good. They are solid contructionists, who believe the Constitution should be followed, and is not a living document.

    Things I am frustrated with:
    1. The busted Dubai Ports deal. He muddied the waters on an issue that many thought he was clear on.

    2. Illegal immigration. A hard line stance needs to be taken on this to get his support back from the conservatives that split because of the Ports Deal. He is not proving strong on this issue, which ultimatly weakens the Republican Party.

    A. He needs to support a PHYSCIAL fence for the border, and increased security. If two undercover FBI agents can sneak enough nuc-u-lar material into this country, what's to stop anyone else?

    B. No "Guest Worker" Program. It's just amnesty by any other name.

    The scary part to me? (No offense, WhoDey) The liberals coming into power. The weak stance showed by all but a few (if that) Democrats on National defense scares the crap out me. (But thats for another thread.) Dont want to derail.

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    Yeah! Someone is going to rape a person and then chase them outside yelling and screaming drawing attention to themselves. I don't think so. Talking about a lost mind, you will believe anything you hear just to make you feel good about yourself.
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    I have the same disappointments as most of you.

    Plus, I have one that probably none of you have.........

    When Bush took office, he pledged to fix the IIM mess (Federal Royalties owed American Indians for Oil, Gas, and Timber)

    Although these records have been looked at for years by the government, Bush spends 300 million dollars to try and find a connection to fraud. ( I could have saved him 300 million, we knew the figures were good )

    I will quote "outgoing" interior department secretary Gale Norton.

    "We have found no fraud or major systemic problems"

    Now, rather than pay the money owed.......Gale Norton steps down which will delay payment until Bush is out of office. (Smokescreen)

    I'm really tired of this, the numbers are right, there is no fraud, the government owes 27.5 billion dollars.......pay it.

    The federal government owns 1 of every 5 acres of land in this country.

    We got the worst, we got the land that no white man would want.

    The beauty of it was this.........we found resources.........we had a product so we sold it to the government for everyones benefit.

    The government never paid.

    I think most Americans want this problem over and done with, we are always pointing the finger at other countries for how they treat their people, and yet,
    we forget to look in the mirror.

    This has simply been another Bush "smoke and mirrors" ploy.

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    The current immigration amnesty BS he is trying to put on us now

    All of a sudden this moron is in favor of illegals staying here and soaking off of us while LEGAL CITIZENS of this country go without

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superchop7

    We got the worst, we got the land that no white man would want.

    Yeah its called Oklahoma

    But the Indians are finally getting something back - as long as they either have a casino or a cig shop - Indians are making a killing (no pun intended) - I mean seriously here in Oklahoma between the casinos and the cig tax fiasco the Indians here are making some pretty good money

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    Quote Originally Posted by IZAAK
    Obviously, you know very little about Islam... It is a major sin to force anyone to convert to Islam. and also, 90% of all Muslims are peaceful and have nothing to do with terrorism.

    and if you want to look at religions with force conversions, look at the Christians for the years 1000-1800's

    What is 10% of 1,000,000,000? Almost 2% of the worlds population, thats all. 1/3 the population of every man, woman & child in this nation, thats all. 100 million people is not a small number.

    Just because the christians did those terrible things hundreds of years ago, should we allow the muslims to do the same today? That is a very interesting position.

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    Out of sight, out of mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by orangenblue420
    Yeah its called Oklahoma

    But the Indians are finally getting something back - as long as they either have a casino or a cig shop - Indians are making a killing (no pun intended) - I mean seriously here in Oklahoma between the casinos and the cig tax fiasco the Indians here are making some pretty good money
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    "Scarce number of jobs and lack of economic opportunity fuel unemployment rates that often exceed 85%"

    "Harsh weather, remoteness, chronic lack of economic opportunities and resources combine to create deplorable living conditions"


    "The federal government spends half as much on health care programs per tribal member as it does other programs for other Americans"

    "Indian elders are 48.7% more likely to die from heart failure, 173% more likely to suffer from diabetes and 44.3% more likely to suffer from asthma"

    "It is not uncommon for 25 people to live in a two bedroom house" ( I have an idea for all those unused trailer's Mr Pres )

    "less than 50% of homes are connected to a sewer"

    "90,000 are homeless"
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    Holy Crap!!!

    Daggumm, some people need to get some things straight about this country.


    Everything that the US govt. did to the American Indian tribes was absolutely terrible. There are no ifs, ands, or buts about it. The Europeans decimated the American Indians through diesease, war, and starvation. Anytime enough white people wanted Indian land, the Indians were forced to give it up in exchange for farming supplies, blankets, and supplies for a certain period of time. After the deal was made, the US rarely kept their end of the bargain. When the Indian tribes retaliated, as any natural human being would, they were punished and had to give up more land. I say, past wrongs should be righted. PERIOD.

    Now, concerning the actual topic:

    I voted for Bush the 1st time and Kerry the 2nd time. I voted for Bush because I am a Republican, and I felt like Bush was a better choice than Gore. But as I get older, and become more informed, by the time the second time came around, I was ready for a change(although I figured he'd win again).

    For the most part, I am right down the middle, like I suspect most Americans are. I am not a hard core Republican or Democrat. However, the Republican overall view on religion and its place in society, that is what makes me lean toward that party.

    Guys, I just want someone to be elected who is honest, courageous, fair, emphathatic, intelligent, and is sober-minded.

    The job of President shouldn't be considered a job of Power, but a job of servitude. It should be the President's philosophy to serve the people. To make this a better place for all who live here.

    If our present-day President, or any future presidents, want to improve our country, here are 3 ways to do so.

    #1 - Stop putting unrealistic expectations on our schools. Set up a system that shows a student's progress as they pass each year, not comparing the class of 2005 with the class of 2006. Make teaching one of the top paying jobs avaliable. That way, our brightest children will want to become teachers, thus furthering our next generation's education. Do the same for law enforcement, fire fighters, and military. And pass laws that say that if anyone from those four occupations breaks a law concerning those they serve, their sentences should be the maximum everytime(this would help curve child molesters, crooked cops and fire fighters and military personell).

    #2 - Put a more concentrated effort on protecting our borders. Build a fence between the US and Mexico. I am not against Mexicans, or any other person of Hispanic descent, coming to the US. But lets stop doing it illegally. That way the people who get here won't be working for peanuts. I mean they are coming to the land of opportunity, and taking jobs that most natural born Americans won't take(don't give me that crap that they are taking jobs away from us), and do so for less than an American would, only because their situation before was so dire. Plus, in this time of world travel and terrorism, we always need to have our borders strengthened.

    #3 - Make everyone pay the same percentage of taxes period, with adjustments for those who have children. I don't want to here people say, but I am paying more money than the people poorer than me. You would still be paying the same percent, so everyone would be giving the same amount. There are too many benefits to those who have money, don't give them more. I feel we are too close to having a class system here in the US.

    Do I like Bush? Yea, sometimes. But I was always under the impression that the best of the best should be our leader.

    That ain't Bush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel51
    Daggumm, some people need to get some things straight about this country.


    Everything that the US govt. did to the American Indian tribes was absolutely terrible. There are no ifs, ands, or buts about it. The Europeans decimated the American Indians through diesease, war, and starvation. Anytime enough white people wanted Indian land, the Indians were forced to give it up in exchange for farming supplies, blankets, and supplies for a certain period of time. After the deal was made, the US rarely kept their end of the bargain. When the Indian tribes retaliated, as any natural human being would, they were punished and had to give up more land. I say, past wrongs should be righted. PERIOD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superchop7
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    "Scarce number of jobs and lack of economic opportunity fuel unemployment rates that often exceed 85%"

    "Harsh weather, remoteness, chronic lack of economic opportunities and resources combine to create deplorable living conditions"


    "The federal government spends half as much on health care programs per tribal member as it does other programs for other Americans"

    "Indian elders are 48.7% more likely to die from heart failure, 173% more likely to suffer from diabetes and 44.3% more likely to suffer from asthma"

    "It is not uncommon for 25 people to live in a two bedroom house" ( I have an idea for all those unused trailer's Mr Pres )

    "less than 50% of homes are connected to a sewer"

    "90,000 are homeless"
    Dont get me wrong - I fully beleive the Indians have been screwed over for 100's of years and I fully believe THEY are the NATIVE Americans and this is their land too - but putting aside history and jumping to today:

    The tribes that have casinos and smoke shops should have plenty of money to fund whatever they need and plenty of jobs to offer indians if they are willing to take them.

    I will give you a small example:

    Fix state tobacco tax law


    Most Oklahomans are confused by our $100 million tobacco tax scandal. Voters decided in 2004 to raise the cigarette tax to $1.03 per pack, but now the majority of Oklahoma cigarettes are taxed at only 6 cents per pack.

    How did it happen that we now have the cheapest cigarettes in America?

    Voters were told that a higher tax would discourage smoking. So who undercut that goal by making cigarettes cheaper than before?

    The answer is Gov. Brad Henry. He created the 6-cent rate -- and a nightmare -- when he quietly signed compacts with a select group of Indian tribes.

    Those agreements have cost the state more than $100 million in lost taxes and harmed non-tribal businesses. As smart business people, the tribes take advantage of the situation; Gov. Henry wants to shift blame by claiming the tribes are cheating.

    But Henry and his negotiator, state Treasurer Scott Meacham, created compacts that also are filled with loopholes and that lack enforcement provisions to protect the state. That's why we have multiple confusing lawsuits. That's why we have fights over costly regulations that still don't fix the problem.

    The compacts run for 10 years, and Oklahoma lost more than $100 million in tax revenue during the first 15 months.

    It's no comfort that the loss has slowed to "only" $4 million each month. This lost revenue was already pledged to create a state cancer center and other public health programs, so now Henry wants to shift money around to cover the shortfall. We'll never get back this $100 million that could have gone to tax cuts, education, better roads, health care and public safety.

    Brad Henry made bad deals that have cost the state more than $100 million and created a scandal. He betrayed the voters. It's time we ask: Who gave the governor authority to undo the will of the voters? How do we fix this mess and how do we avoid another one?

    State law is hazy on whether a governor can approve compacts without prior approval from a special legislative oversight committee. That committee never approved these tobacco compacts.

    An attorney general's ruling has been sought on whether the governor had the power to make these deals. If he didn't have the authority, we should start all over and create a fair, uniform standard for all tobacco sellers. But if state law allows any official to give away over $100 million, then we should change that law immediately!

    We need accountability. Very few news stories have mentioned how this fiasco was created; that's why many Oklahomans don't understand the problem or the need to fix the law.

    The governor's tobacco tax plan raised costs for other competitors, but then his compacts lowered costs for the favored smokeshops. They gained a near monopoly by getting an automatic dollar-per-pack advantage. Non-tribal competitors can't compete. They are losing business and some are laying off workers or even closing.

    With the stroke of the governor's pen, the voters' decision was betrayed. No governor should have the power to make agreements like these. And even if they have the power, nobody should abuse that power like this.


    Now this is NOT the Indians fault THIS is our governors fault - i do not blame the indians for taking advantage of a tax break - there isnt a person alive who wouldnt do the same thing

    But look at the numbers - $100 MILLION in tax SAVINGS alone in 15 months - that seems like a good start to funding some of the things you've mentioned above -


    That doesnt even begin to touch the money the casinos birng in

    Now my problem lies within how the states and the indians work together - I knwo the casinos in CT are doing damn good - i beleive they have become some of the largest in this country, if not the world - but before they opened they made a great deal with the State of CT and EVERYONE benefits.

    The government is OK is different though - I havent quite grasped the morons here and cant quite figure out why they dont look to other SUCCESSFUL states when venturing into something new

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    The Chickasaw Nation has already pledged millions to help other tribes in other states.

    Keep in mind that there are 550 federally recognized tribes in every state in the Union.

    Keep in mind that Oklahoma is trying to get their tax money back.

    I have provided statistics to back up the current Indian living conditions.

    You need to visit some reservations to understand what is going on.

    Having said that;

    The government needs to pay its debts to the Indians, they owe it, they need to pay it, they have danced around the issue for too long, their claims of fraud and deception have been proven false.

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