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    Quote Originally Posted by JayCutler4MVP!!! View Post
    It is immature but how do you know he did it on purpose? Hes out there trying to win. He don't go out there to hit players.

    But it is what it is. Why are Boston fans whining?
    I guess going 5-0 vs us in the 1st 2 series isn't enough.
    Prob the same way all of you where saying that Becks was throwing at Abreu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by #1snake_fan View Post
    i say it's time to trim the fat ...

    TRADE David Ortiz for Matt Holliday

    and use Holliday as the DH or back up fielder we all know Drew's going to get hurt at some point (hopefully not)

    thanks for everything Papi ... :salute!: but your not BIG PAPI anymore

    your not helping us anymore

    holliday is young and a great hitter and a pretty good fielder and if Jason Bay doesn't resign with the Sox then we're set

    If we would have taken this approach with Peds in 07 the he would have been gone. It is way to early to say that Papi is done give him alteas till the AS break.
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    We need prayer for former second baseman and current Announcer Jerry Remy. He is recovering form Cancer Surgury.
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    Manny, Manny, Manny. Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southstander View Post
    Manny, Manny, Manny. Why?
    Looks like the Sox got rid of him just in time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncoManiac_69 View Post
    Looks like the Sox got rid of him just in time.
    While I am glad it did not happen to him in a Sox Uniform, it still looks bad for the time he was in Boston.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southstander View Post
    While I am glad it did not happen to him in a Sox Uniform, it still looks bad for the time he was in Boston.
    every team in this era has players that have used...all the names will never come out

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    at least all the Yankees fans can shut up about why is it only A-Rod ?

    cause now truly the Best Hitter in the game just got caught


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    I always had a feeling that Manny was probably on steroids, just hoped it would never be revealed, at least in a Boston uniform. Yep, I said it.

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    It is looking is if he Juiced while in Boston. Here is a question for Sox fans, are the 04 and 07 WS tainted now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southstander View Post
    It is looking is if he Juiced while in Boston. Here is a question for Sox fans, are the 04 and 07 WS tainted now?
    I'm no Sox fan, but I'll tell you they shouldn't be. Like Apoc said, EVERY team had players in both minor and major roles who juiced...it was a fairly even playing field.

    It shouldn't taint those WS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayCutler4MVP!!! View Post
    epic!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RunYouOver View Post
    I'm no Sox fan, but I'll tell you they shouldn't be. Like Apoc said, EVERY team had players in both minor and major roles who juiced...it was a fairly even playing field.

    It shouldn't taint those WS.
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    Bill Simmons writes the column he never wanted to write...

    ...And the one Red Sox fans never wanted to read.

    Confronting my worst nightmare
    by Bill Simmons
    Dateline: May 7, 2014

    My son and I have flown from California to spend the week in Boston. He is a little more than 6 at this point. He has never set foot in Fenway Park. The time is right. He likes baseball. He likes the Red Sox. He's a little sports encyclopedia. I have brainwashed him. He is just old enough to understand the significance of his first Fenway game and, more importantly, old enough that he'll be able to remember the experience decades later.

    Manny Ramirez was the best right-handed hitter of his generation. But now, we're not sure what that means.
    We bring my father with us. Three generations of the Simmons family taking in a Yankees-Red Sox game for the first time. This should be a wonderful moment. A signature moment, even.

    We find our $1,500 seats in the lower boxes near third base. We are sitting in Best Buy's Section 17, which is right between Bob's Discount Furniture's Section 16 and Costco's Section 18. Every section has a sponsor now. The Green Monster is now called "The Pepsi Green Monster" and has a big Pepsi can painted on it. Ted Williams' special seat in right field is now sponsored by Muscle Milk. Even home plate is sponsored by Dunkin' Donuts. Has the logo on it and everything. That's just the way sports work now.

    We settle into our seats. I point toward the championship banners over the first-base side. They go in order: 1903, 1904, 1912, 1915, 1916, 1918, 2004, 2007. Ever since Boston won the World Series five years ago, I always imagined pointing to that 2004 banner and telling my little boy, "That's the team that changed everything."

    So that's what I do. I point at the banner and tell him, "That's the team that changed everything."

    "Isn't that the team that cheated?" he asks.

    My father and I glance at each other. A few beats pass.

    "Well, technically, no," I stammer. "I mean ..."

    "I thought they had a whole bunch of steroids guys on that team," he says.

    "Well, there have been some accusations, and yeah, some of the power numbers were a little suspicious, but ..."

    "I'd do it again!" my dad yells happily.

    "Dad!"

    I shake my head at him. He shrugs. The thing is, he WOULD do it again. He wanted to see the Red Sox win the World Series in his lifetime. He worried about it constantly. So did I. So did every Red Sox fan. We worried about living a full life, then dying, without ever seeing them win. All of us knew people who fit in that category. None of us wanted to end up in there.

    All of us would have made a deal with the devil at the time. And maybe we did. We just didn't know it.

    "Nothing was ever really proved," I tell my son, trying to keep up the good fight.

    He ignores me and starts rattling through our 2004 lineup with creepy precision. He points out Nomar Garciaparra's remarkable 1999 and 2000 seasons, his subsequent tendon injuries and how his career played out so blandly afterward for reasons that remain unclear. My dad points out the Sox traded Nomar midway through the 2004 season. Technically, that debate shouldn't even matter. Score one for Dad.

    "But what about Trot Nixon and Bill Mueller?" my son says. "They missed a bunch of games every year with injuries, put on weight when they were skinny guys, peaked quickly and were never seen again. Same for Mark Bellhorn, right? That's suspicious."

    "Well," I say, "their names never came up in anything, so that's not really fair ..."

    "And Kevin Millar, he had a few big homer years, then his power numbers went way down once the testing started."

    "That's true, but it doesn't prove anything ..."

    "And Johnny Damon, he got bigger and started hitting for more power even though he was a singles hitter, right?"

    "Well ..."

    The events of that magical fall of 2004 are now in question.
    "And what about Big Papi?" he wonders. "Played for Minnesota, didn't hit for power, came to the Red Sox, turned into the best slugger in the league, and as soon as they cracked down on steroids, he stopped hitting homers again. And he was friends with all the other Dominican players who were linked to performance-enhancing drugs. What about him?"

    Silence. Nobody says anything.

    Finally, my dad steps in: "He had an inside-outside swing at Minnesota, when he came to Boston, we encouraged him to pull the ball, so ..."

    "Come on, Gramps!" my son says. "That's dumb, and you know it."

    We glance out to the field. Big Papi is one of Boston's coaches now. After he hit 54 homers in 2006, his career was over within four years. Now he's just a fat guy in his early 40s coaching first base. You would never guess this is the same guy who carried us in 2004, the guy who fueled the Greatest Comeback Ever, the guy who helped convince an entire fan base that, yes, we could believe.

    "And what about Manny?" my son asks. "He tested positive for performance enhancers in 2009 with the Dodgers. How do you know he wasn't using that whole time?"

    "Well, we don't," I say. "But that was kind of a fluke -- he had a doctor in Florida who prescribed him a banned substance, and ..."

    "Come on, Dad, I read your Red Sox book. You said that at least you knew Manny couldn't have ever used steroids because he was too dumb to figure out how to stick to a cycle. Then he tested positive. You were, like, his biggest fan. You wrote a big piece after he got traded that was so long, it took me a week to read it."

    "I told him not to write that column," my dad says. "Manny needed to go. He was a selfish jerk. Your father had blinders on ..."

    "Come on, that's not fair," I say. "I loved the guy. He was on the team for more than eight years. He helped us end the curse. He made our lives as Red Sox fans more fun. He was like family. I wasn't gonna dump the guy from my life after everything he did just because his agent poisoned him against the team."

    "But you defended him and said he was a good guy at heart," my son says. "And then he cheated, right? So how does that make him a good guy?"

    I take a deep breath.

    "It doesn't make him a good guy," I say. "You don't understand what it was like to follow baseball before you were born. There was a strike in 1994, and the World Series was canceled. Everyone hated baseball. Then Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa started hitting homers, and the balls started flying out of the park, and it was so much fun that everyone looked the other way. We didn't care that these guys were practically busting out of their skin or growing second foreheads. We really didn't. All the cheating made baseball more fun to watch. We were in denial. It was weird.

    "Then, Barry Bonds hit 73 home runs in a season, and that was like the turning point. We realized that things had gone too far. We blamed him for cheating and looked the other way with dozens of other guys who might have been doing the same thing. Brady Anderson hit 50 homers in 1996; we didn't care. Bret Boone had 141 RBIs in a season; we didn't care. Big Papi went from 10 homers to 41 in four seasons; we didn't care. Roger Clemens was washed up, but suddenly he could throw 98 miles per hour and win Cy Youngs again; we didn't care. Eric Gagne saved 84 straight games and threw 120 miles an hour; we didn't care. Good players started blowing out tendons nobody had ever heard of; we didn't care. Pitchers blew out elbow tendons and shoulder ligaments routinely; we didn't care. This was the deal. They cheated; we pretended they didn't. It's really hard to explain unless you were there."

    My son tries to soak everything in. That's lot to process for a 6-year-old.


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